Damn! I was taking this as gold, since it came from KGW. (No, this time I didn't actually read the link first....). KGW quoted BE. ARG!!! And then, I see they quoted Jason Quack too.... And then, I see the writer "Jared Cowley is a digital producer at KGW." Geeze..... Oh well, the Pacers won't know the difference....
Humm. That one didn't work out so good for me. I didn't even get a chance to post anything..... You have been banned for the following reason: No reason was specified. Date the ban will be lifted: Never Lol. On to the next.....
Oladipo is the player Prichard could hope one of the picks turned into. He's still only 24 years old. Sabonis was a higher pick last year than any of the picks we offered. Our players outside Dame, CJ and Nurk are not assets
Right, because every GM hopes the guy they draft turns into a 25-year old below average player making $21 million a year for the next 4 years. He's 25. The same age as Allen Crabbe on an even worse contract. He was the 11th pick in the worst draft in NBA history, and by some measures the worst player taken in that draft. Malcom Brogdon, the 2016-17 Rookie of the Year had the lowest scoring average (10.2 ppg) in the entire 65-year history of the Rookie of the Year award. Even among the shittiest draft in NBA history, Sabonis stood out as being exceptionally bad. Of the 45 players drafted in 2016 that played in the NBA last season, he was tied for dead last in VORP. Of the 194 NBA players that played at least 1500 minutes last season, he was dead last, 194th, in PER. If you expand that to the players that played at least 1000 minutes, he fared slight better: 281st out of 282. Yes, he's a big and we all know bigs take longer to develop, but his rookie stats were much worse than another former 11th pick who was also: a white, American born big man. Mo Harkless is every bit as good as Victor Oladipo, a year younger with $54 million less remaining on his contract. Jezzzus, I know you like to shit on all things Blazers and disagree with EVERYTHING positive anyone ever says about the team but this post takes the cake. The package IND took from OKC for Paul George was absolute shit. They got a 25-year old below average player on an absolutely hideous contract and a completely underwhelming player from a historically bad draft class when they could have had 3 first round picks in an incredibly deep draft and a younger player on a much more favorable contract. BNM
Fake news. Batum and Roy were both full time starters from the very first game of their rookie seasons. BNM
Kind of surprised nobody is discussing the merits of the trade from a Blazers' perspective. Would we really expect George to re-sign after a season? Isn't that pretty optimistic so soon after we lost Aldridge? Can you imagine what it'd be like for the next decade looking at Collins in some other jersey while George moves on to LA? Ugh. I feel like we'll look back on this as dodging a major bullet.
Yeah, if this was really the offer, it had serious potential to bite the Blazers in the butt. I guess at some point, if you're a small market team you have to go all in on the chance to add a proven All-Star that you think can give you a shot at winning. I can't fault the decision to take a risk, but given the strength of the Warrior's roster and the odds of beating them even with George, I'm kind of glad that KP turned it down. If I was a Pacers fan, however, I'd be pissed.
Well, yeah, that IS a Pacer forum. Thanks.... (lol) Not really sure. Must be off my IP. They didn't even bother sending the typical confirmation email. POW, you're banned.... Kinda funny in a way.
Well I was thinking about it and if George going to LA was such a sure thing, don't you think KPee would have wanted to take our assets and watch us suffer when George bails?
Weak. Well when you find a good one, don't just make a post but will you make a respectable thread? I'd like to see what they really think about it.
Yeah, that was my idea. Not to troll them (well, maybe a smidge). It actually does look like a decent site. Shoot, they had 1600+ posts in their thread discussing it. I sent them an email, but I don't really expect a reply. VPN time....
I don't think we'd be watching Collins that much because we wouldn't have traded up to ten to be able to draft Collins if we traded our picks for PG13.
Yes, I absolutely believe had we landed Paul George we would have been able to resign him. Of course you have those type of discussions with him or his agent, prior to the trade - not specific contract discussions, but what his goals are and what he wants to achieve. Paul George has said all along he wants to play for a contender. He was happy in IND when they were pushing the Heat to 7 games and has said all along he would re-sign with IND if they could build a team capable of contending. Trust me, I'm from Indiana and visit there often. If he can be happy playing for a contender in Indiana, he would be thrilled beyond belief to play for one in Portland. And, I do believe adding Paul George to our current (well, pre-draft) roster with a full season of Nurk catapults us all the way to the 2nd seed in the West with a > 50% chance of trip to the WCF. Yes, GSW is still better on paper, and probably wins a series against us, but getting to the WCF against them qualifies as being a contender. But, that is year one. GSW's two best players would be 2 - 3 years older than ours, and they don't have a 22-year old as part of their core going forward. We would challenge them immediately and our core would continue to get better as their's ages and declines. Paul George is one of the top 5 two way payers in the league - arguably one of the top 3 (after LeBron and Kawhi). With him, plus a full season of Nurk we would have been one of the top 3 teams in the league and the only one other than GSW or CLE to have any kind of shot at a title. Paul George is the kind of player that steps up his game in the playoffs. Yes, IND was swept by CLE, but George kept them in every game and his second best teammate in that series was Lance Stephenson, who had been waived by two teams with losing records during the regular season. Imagine how elated George would have been to have Dame, C.J., and Nurk helping him out in the playoffs. So yeah, I think coming to POR and winning 55+ games and a deep playoff run, while watching the Lakers win 25 games and another trip to the lottery would have been enough to convince him he's better off re-signing here than pissing away his career babysitting the Laker teenagers. As far as Pritchard goes, he seemed WAY more concerned with Paul George's future than that of his own team. He didn't want to trade George anywhere where he might re-sign and he definitely didn't want to trade him to BOS or CLE. The last one kind of makes since - if IND wasn't in full rebuild mode. The Pacers would have to face George four times a year and possibly in the playoffs, but most likely not any time soon. If he indeed rejected that much better POR deal, he hurt his team's future. I already discussed the shit package he took fro OKC above (below average 25-year old on a hideous contract and an underwhelming rookie from the worst draft class in NBA history). That POR package would have really jump started IND's rebuild - Mo Harkless, a younger player than Olidipo, who is just as good on a team friendly contract plus 3 first round picks in a very deep draft. That gives them one young starter in Harkless plus three shots at landing future starters in the draft, or the option to combine picks to move up. Yeah, Pritchard may have screwed Paul Allen and Neil Olshey, but in the end he screwed himself and the Pacers organization more. To me, being more worried about covering your own ass than getting the best possible return for your team is the kind of move that gets a GM fired. Not a good way to start the new job... BNM
IMO If the Blazers didn't think they had a good shot at re-signing PG, they wouldn't have made the offer. I have a pretty good feeling that a season of kicking ass and great team chemistry with Dame, CJ, and Nurk would have sealed the deal.
