Politics CHARLIE KIRK SHOT IN UTAH

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    Trans Terror Cell would make a great band name.
     
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    First, he paid his debt to society for those alleged crimes. Second, black men are often targeted by police and often have criminal records when a white man would have none.

    Look at the day he was murdered. Completely innocent. Tortured to death on camera. For Kirk to call him a scumbag.

    Was Kirk targeted by the government? Doesn't appear to have been. Was he tortured? Nope.

    Was George Floyd destroying our country for profit? No.

    Kirk was a fucking low life scumbag. He didn't deserve to die for it. But he was absolutely a traitor. Far more harmful to our society than anything George Floyd did. And we have video evidence of Kirk doing it.
     
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    So George Floyd apparently deserved it because he had a criminal past?

    Eep....don't look into Mangos past then....
     
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    I promise you, 95% of these people hating on Kirk have never sat down and watching his full videos. Many claim they havent or dont either. Many things taken out of context. Or showing half a quote to fit their agenda imo.

    Like this quote:


    if you goning to use the quote, at least use the whole thing.

    his quote, use all of it "I can't stand the word empathy, I think empathy is a made up new age term
    and it does a lot of damage. Sympathy is a better word, because empathy means you are actually feeling what another person felt, and no one can feel
    what another person feels."

    Funny enough, they will also push back on anything that doesn't fit their views. the FBI is lying, it's a set up, the text messages aren't real, he isn't on the left, etc. Also while some say, Floyd wasn't a bad person. but Kirk is this and that, a bunch of hot garbage imo.

    We can ignore the fact that he wore make up and wigs before, had a bf as well that was transitioning to a women, was in discord chats. But let’s push back against that because it doesn’t fit my narrative and I hate the right lol.
     
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    LMAO, where do you get your information from? Fake account, and the 2 that liked that post are eating it up hahaha. You guys are hilarious man, just reading what you see online before doing any background check to see if its legit.
     
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    He paid debt after stealing and robbing multiple times? LOL you can spin it anyway you want, but its cringe to hear you defend Floyd. Once again he didn't deserve to die regardless just like Kirk didn't, and it was messed up what happened to both of them at the end of the day

    He called him a scam bag because of his crimal background. Floyd wasn't a saint. If you want to say Kirk was a fucking low life scumbag, well then say the same about Floyd. You just seem so wrapped up in the whole right/left thing you can't even think logically.
     
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    I already described my position on both. I don't know for sure that Floyd did any of that. I simply don't know. Black men are targeted far too often for me to have any confidence. And the proof is that he was tortured and killed on camera in public for no reason.

    I have proof that Kirk did the things that I've said. I have seen the video evidence. I have watched his podcast. I have watched his debates. I have seen his dishonest tactics and his cruel and bigoted perspective.

    I know 100% that Kirk had no empathy for minorities who are tortured and murdered. Therefore, I have no empathy for Kirk, who has been much more harmful to our society than any minority living in America that I can think of.
     
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    You have no proof Floyd did those things? LMAO ok man. You will just spin anything that doesn't fit your narrative and push back on anything.
     
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    I know for sure, 100%, what Kirk did. I don't know for sure 100% that Floyd did anything. Is it likely he committed some crime? Is it likely he may have robbed somebody? Sure. But even if he did many of those crimes are committed by people who are simply desperate and poor.

    That doesn't make it okay, but it does make it more understandable.

    George Foreman used to mug people for a living. When people are desperate and poor they make desperate and poor decisions.

    People like Charlie Kirk argue that we should keep those people desperate and poor. So that we could continue to punish them and blame them.

    The data shows us that doesn't work. Charlie Kirk was in position and intelligent enough to know that. Yet he chose to ignore or deny it while targeting those people with abuse. And advocating for continued, and even more extreme abuse.

    Further, arguing that women should be subservient to men.

    At worse, George Floyd was a product of the system that Charlie Kirk wanted us all to live under. If you give him the benefit of the doubt he was just unlucky enough to live as a black man in a precinct of very dirty cops (there's no debate, those were dirty cops).

    If you can't see the difference then you simply don't want to.
     
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    WHAT? Are you listening to yourself? Desperate and poor, so that makes it more understandable?

    No it doesn't, everyone has it in them to go make a life for themselves, not play victim. But then again, that's typical of the left, always playing victim.
     
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    I have no idea what it's like to be a woman, but I can empathize with them for how they've been treated as women. Same with gays, trans, Blacks, Asians, immigrants, people with disabilities (etc). I think those who can't, or won't, don't like the word empathy because it comes with feelings that aren't our own.

    You know those videos on YouTube where someone is reunited with their birth parents? I totally can understand the pain they've felt of abandonment or feeling like they've never fit in with their family, even though I wasn't adopted or abandoned by my family.

    I think it's the difference between someone who can cry over a video of complete strangers having something good happening to them, and those who don't.
     
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    Actually, "empathy" means you understand how or why someone feels the way they do because the person feeling the empathy has "been there"and DOES know how it feels. Quit trying to rationalize what cannot ever be rationalized.
     
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    Like anyone, I enjoy being "right". It's a human emotion. But I have never been more ashamed of being "right" when I "called out" the tidal wave of transphobia that was coming with the third comment of this (now) 48 page thread. The hoops the Right is jumping through to distance their white, conservatively raised Mormon boy from themselves would be almost hilarious if it wasn't so tragic, disgusting and evil. I sure do hope there is a heaven but humans in general make it clear that such a place would be a vast, empty desert.......
     
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    I think its pretty reasonable for anyone to understand that people can start at different spots making it much harder for some groups/people to "go make a life for themselves" than others.
     
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    I'm not playing victim. I'm suggesting that we set up a system that is less likely to put people in positions in which they have to make these decisions. Systems that are proven to be far more effective and efficient. With greater outcomes. Which results in better economies. Healthier populations. Happier populations. Less crime.

    This has been studied extensively. Poor people are simply more likely to make poor decisions.

    Those same people (when given enough money to no longer be poor) make better decisions.

    It has nothing to do with victims or blame. It has everything to do with human nature.
     
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    Sadly, it's not an uncommon human character trait to maneuver facts, or at least the interpretation of said facts, into an easily defendable position. The left does it, and the right does it. Its kind of the "knee jerk" reactionary side of...well, everything.

    The right is much better at it than the left is though. In essence, this is gaslighting. They gaslight like nobodies business.

    One side argues with the mindset of "how can you not see my point of view!??!" while the other argues with the mindset of "how can you not see you're wrong??

    Each side has a lot of goalpost moving though. But in this case, this feels like some 4d chess levels of goalpost moving.
     
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    "the ability to understand and share the feelings of another" is empathy.

    Kirk's point was, you cant feel excatly how someone else feels, everyone is different, but with sympathy you can feel sorrow, passion and and pitty for the person suffering.

    The point really was, you guys just took the small part of his quote "I hate the word empathy" and left out the rest, because he was comparing it to sympathy.

    Now you can go back to liking parody account posts that is fake but fits your narrative lol.
     
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    LOL...yeah...the "left" plays the victim and the "right" doesn't. Obviously, you enrolled in Gaslighting 101

    you also sure seem to be saying that Gerorge Floyd deserved to die for his past more than Charlie Kirk deserved to die for his past. Could you go thru Floyd's criminal record again and point out the capitol crimes?
     
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