youth movement?

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  1. Really Lost One

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    does anyone here think we need to go on a youth movement? i mean, we have two old and aging superstars, plus a bench of basically old legs. the only youth we basically have is willie, sammy, korver, iggy, and salmons. everyone else who actually plays is 30 years or older. our bench is getting really old, and mckie isn't the sixth man type of player he was before. i don't think we should do a complete makeover, but i think we just need some fresh legs coming of the bench. what do you think?
     
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    I think thats too drastic of a movement. Every team needs a balance of old and young to be successful and for Philadelphia, there's no exception. I don't get how you say we only have five guys that are young- thats actually a lot for a team. More and it would feel like an expansion team. Anyways, the main guys coming off the bench are decent right now with Marc Jackson (somewhat of a scorer and rebounding guy), Aaron Mckie (great veteranship prescence), and Rodney Rogers (we needed him after the Webber trade). The only problem is, like you mentioned above, it can be a lot better. I don't think adding youth necessarily will solve this- it can be done with veteran free agents as well. However, before anything happens, I know there's probably going to be some trades to fit Cheek's style. However, I don't think much of our bench guys will be going. They both have huge contracts considering they are coming off the bench not to mention Mckie isn't contributing much offensively.
     
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    In my opinion, Philadelphia has a solid balance of young and old. But instead of adding youth now, they should go look for some experienced role players if they want to build a championship team. Right now the 76er bench is too thin, hopefully they can make some moves this off-season to acquire playoff players who can fill a role.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Silky Smooth:</div><div class="quote_post">In my opinion, Philadelphia has a solid balance of young and old. But instead of adding youth now, they should go look for some experienced role players if they want to build a championship team. Right now the 76er bench is too thin, hopefully they can make some moves this off-season to acquire playoff players who can fill a role.</div>
    how? they don't got any draft picks right now, and they don't have much cap space. guess we just have to try and trade, but no one on our bench basically has any value. and i'm pretty sure we won't trade any of our starters.
     
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    I don't know how, thats what I'm trying to say. The 76ers need to find a way to get role players, we'll see what Billy king can do because his options are limited this time around.
     
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    I think with Iguodala, Green, Korver, and Dalembert only getting better the Sixers bench won't need as much fixing as you think. Hopefully with the positive direction the 76ers are going in will persuade some signings. Billy King is a good general manager, he should be able to fix the problem.

    Btw, Happy Birthday Silky Smooth.
     
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    I think that the Sixers will actually make playoffs next year, good luck to Phili. Iverson played like he was an all-star this year too!
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting #3 Marbury:</div><div class="quote_post">I think that the Sixers will actually make playoffs next year, good luck to Phili. Iverson played like he was an all-star this year too!</div>
    Iverson always played like he was an all-star.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting #3 Marbury:</div><div class="quote_post">I think that the Sixers will actually make playoffs next year, good luck to Phili. Iverson played like he was an all-star this year too!</div>

    What are you on about? Sixers did make the playoffs this year, and iverson was an allstar!
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">What are you on about? Sixers did make the playoffs this year, and iverson was an allstar!</div>

    More like an MVP.

    For my take on this, I agree with AznxBaller. In order for this team to be successful you need a balance of young and experienced players. If you have an all young team who will step up and be the leader? If you have an experienced (old) team who will be the one willing to dive for loose balls and make hustle plays? The way I look at it right now, the 76ers have a good balance of young and experienced players. I would like to see a couple Robert Horry and Jon Barry like players on the team to even things out even more, but for the most part this team has a reasonable amount of balance in terms of young and experienced players.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">They both have huge contracts considering they are coming off the bench not to mention Mckie isn't contributing much offensively.</div>

    I don't think you should worry too much about what he does offensively. That is why Green is on the court with him most of the time. Mckie is not the same offensive player or more like he is not the same player period. He's more of a players coach somewhat similar to what Eric Snow was to this team. This time around McKie is the decision maker. He makes the right decisions, hit an open shot when he has it even though he may only finish with 4 points per game, but his presence and experience plays a big part. But the primary reason why I wouldn?t trade McKie is?

    <font size="1">You have to credit guys like Aaron McKie. A veteran presence in the locker room - I am trying to tell you - there is nothing like it. When you don?t have it, you can?t win. When you have hardheaded young guys, you can?t win. We have guys that listen, and we have some good veterans, and I think that is part of Willie?s development.? - Chris Webber</font>

    Those were Webber comments in a postgame interview. Those comments alone showed the importance of Mckie. Its one thing for a young player to say that about a veteran, but for a veteran to say that about another veteran shows that he(Mckie) has an impact on him(Webber) even though he?s been in the league for so long. If he is capable of supposedly motivating Webber imagine what it could be doing to the young guys? So all in all, I think we shouldn?t be too antsy to trade McKie.
     
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    Yeah I understand Mckie's a great veteran leader- I think I read that same quote somewhere before. However, after doing some researching at UsaToday's salary database, Mckie actually has a player option next offseason. I'm expecting him to retire by then so I guess it all works out in my perspective. Since Sixers don't really have any good draft picks or salary cap space this offseason, Sixers might as well keep Mckie for his veteran leadership and defense for now.

    By the way, does anyone know what Philadelphia should do with Rodney Rogers, Matt Barnes, and Josh Davis who are the smaller name free agents that Philadelphia has this offseason?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AznxBaller:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah I understand Mckie's a great veteran leader- I think I read that same quote somewhere before. However, after doing some researching at UsaToday's salary database, Mckie actually has a player option next offseason. I'm expecting him to retire by then so I guess it all works out in my perspective. Since Sixers don't really have any good draft picks or salary cap space this offseason, Sixers might as well keep Mckie for his veteran leadership and defense for now.

    By the way, does anyone know what Philadelphia should do with Rodney Rogers, Matt Barnes, and Josh Davis who are the smaller name free agents that Philadelphia has this offseason?</div>
    well, i think matt barnes won't be back cuz he didn't really play much. i hope rodney won't be back so we can use the money to sign a better power forward, if we can't i want rodney back. with davis, i really don't care. he had some good games, but usually he doesn't play too well, so i don't really care. but i don't think any of them will be back next season.
     
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    A good move would be to replace Rogers with Donyell Marshall.
     
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    This is a dumb question but what kind of style does Mo run an what type of player is Mo's type. That may go a long way to who we have on this team at the start of next year......
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting DaAnswer3:</div><div class="quote_post">This is a dumb question but what kind of style does Mo run an what type of player is Mo's type. That may go a long way to who we have on this team at the start of next year......</div>
    what's a mo type of player?
     
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    There is no healing this team from the outside, there are plenty of players right now, the only thing one could hope for is trading webber, who really isn't that good any more. but every other team realizes this. there's nothing that we can do, we have to let the youth we have (which is more than on a lotta teams) develope.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting yao ming:</div><div class="quote_post">what's a mo type of player?</div>


    mo aka maurice aka cheeks our new hc [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">mo aka maurice aka cheeks our new hc </div>
    No I think he's wondering what kind of player is a Maurice Cheeks type of player. Like you had Korver and Rodney Rogers who were Jim O'Brien's type of players. To be honest, I really don't know how Cheeks coaches and what style he likes. Anyone want to fill me in?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">No I think he's wondering what kind of player is a Maurice Cheeks type of player. Like you had Korver and Rodney Rogers who were Jim O'Brien's type of players. To be honest, I really don't know how Cheeks coaches and what style he likes. Anyone want to fill me in?</div>

    I never really payed attention to Cheeks coaching style, however I think he may swith things up a little bit. I honestly spent like 10 minutes searching for the article that would betterhelp asnwer your question but I came up short. Nevertheless, I remeber what I said and I'm 95% sure Mo will look to have the 76erse defense spark the offense and in which they can get into the transition game. It sounds awfully like Jim O'Brien but hopefully we will get better results. If anything I would want the 76ers to get into the half-court game some more, yeah that might take Korver out of his element but that's why I want him to be a 6th man, but for the most part Iverson will have no problem, Webber could handle is and Iguodala will be able to feed off of Webbers passing skills. So for the most part, I think we could potentially be just as good with the halfcourt if not better than having to score in transitions all the time. Mo has a lot of expectations on his shoulders, so hopefully he can come through and have an amazing season at the helm of his team.
     
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    Mo's style in the past won't matter in this situation. He is going to have to come in with a new, fresh game plan and a philosophy on how to get Webber and Iverson to play as a dominant duo. If he can figure that out, then AI and Webber will be able to run the offense together and that will definitely lead to a more efficient offense.
     

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