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  1. Shapecity

    Shapecity S2/JBB Teamster Staff Member Administrator

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">1)NBADraft.net received word late Thursday that Atlanta will likely use their (recently won in lottery) second pick in the draft on Marvin Williams and not Chris Paul as first thought. Though the team already has Josh Smith and Josh Childress, and has more of a need for PG, the team feels Williams is by far the best prospect available.

    2)A couple weeks back, NBADraft.net received a tip that Channing Frye had a promise in the top 10. The likely team has recently been identified as Golden State. And while Frye would be a bit of a reach at 9, he's a bigman with touch and the size to play center.

    3)The Bobcats lost big in the lottery moving from 3 to 5. The coin flip which put them behind New Orleans ended up meaning a lot more than who drafted higher in the second round.

    Charlotte despises their current 5th position as they feel there are really only 4 quality players in the draft: Bogut, Marvin Williams, Chris Paul and Deron Williams. And since those four are likely to be gone when they select 5th, they want to move up. Portland, continuing with their youth movement is high on Gerald green, and may end up moving down two spots and acquiring a future first from Charlotte.

    4)With the Bucks winning the top pick in the draft. It means that Martynas Andriuskevicius will likely opt out of the draft. </div>

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  2. Schaddy

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    Wow. I know that Marvin is going to be a great player, but when your team lost 69 games and has only 2 keepers on the roster, why in the world would you pick a player at the same position? This is mind boggling. I know they say that Josh Smith can play the 4 for stretches, but he's probably not going to be a starter there. This just doesn't make sense. You've got the pick of the litter at your greatest position of need, and you want to ignore it? Wow. [​IMG]
     
  3. J_Ray

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    That Lithuanian dude is opting out of the draft is amazing, but he might be higher next year, but wow. He still will be high and he is going to opt out.
     
  4. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    Channing Frye as a Warrior... at #9????

    Gawd, I hope not. Otherwise it'll be looking more analogous that Offseasons are to Chris Mullin as Crack Cocaine is to Whitney Houston. No way the Warriors guarantee that early. Smokescreen, most likely. They're trying to fool somebody so that if they trade down or split the pick, the player they want will still be there... whoever that is. It's gotta be some team looking for a big. I think the Warriors want Petro or Diogu at a lower pick.
     
  5. bbwSwish

    bbwSwish Harder. Better. Faster. Stronger.

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    Wow Channing at #9 is a huge reach. I thought he would late teens or early twenties. I think this is a terrible move by the Warriors as is the Hawks getting Marvin Williams. Chris Paul would fit in so much better but it seems like Atlanta is caught up in Williams' potential. I think Paul and Childress would be a nice combo that could be very good in a couple of years.
     
  6. .cabangbang

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    Okay my thoughts. Chris Paul needs to be picked by Atlanta. Harrington would be playing at PF, Smith at SF, Childress at SG, and Paul at PG instead of, Lue at PG, Childress at SG, Williams at SF, Smith at PF, and Harrington at the bench. That makes absloutley no sense.

    Then with the Warriors taking Frye at 9, that is bull**** Frye is not going to move up to 9. No Way! We are taking Granger, my honest opinion
     
  7. Courtking

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    I find that interesting that Martynas Andriuskevicius is going to opt out of the draft again. If he does indeed opt out that means he will have to wait another two years before he can put himself in the draft again. Frye may be a reach at number nine for the Warriors but as the old saying goes, if the player you want is there then take him. They can't risk trading down to 15 or so and having say the Clippers grab him at number 12. It will definitely be interesting to see what the Warriors do at nine because of their need for a center. Do they stay there pick a guy like Taft, Frye, or May or do they trade down and still pickup a decent center and grab a couple draft picks along the way? Only time will tell.
     
  8. wtwalker77

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    It's WAY too early for any of those predictions to carry any weight with me.

    The only thing that can be said so far with any amount of certainty is that Bogut, Williams, and Paul are going to be the first three players off the board. And even that isn't a total given. Beyond that, there are 9-12 kids that could go in the next 7 spots, in just about any order. So to say any player has a guarantee from any team at this point is just stupid.

    Besides, Frye is a senior, what's the point to guaranteeing him? It's not like he'll pull his name out of the draft if he doesn't get a top 10 guarantee.
     
  9. Voodoo Child

    Voodoo Child Can I Kick It?

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting wtwalker77:</div><div class="quote_post">
    Besides, Frye is a senior, what's the point to guaranteeing him? It's not like he'll pull his name out of the draft if he doesn't get a top 10 guarantee.</div>

    That has got to be the most logical spin I have heard anyone put on it all day. This just seems like missinformation or a smokescreen to me. Why else would the Warriors even bother working anyone else out if they were commited to Channing Frye? There just seems no logical reason that anyone would make a "commitment" to a Senior, especially this early in the process.

    I thought it was pretty funny how everyone took this news. About half of the mock drafts in the "Member Mock Drafts" subforum of the NBA Draft forum had Frye at #9. I think that a lot of people take this "inside information" a little too seriously. I personally just saw Frye as a late first rounder and maybe even a mid-first rounder because of the lack of height in the draft, but #9 is ludacris.
     
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    A sure fire indicator to a team making an early commitment to a player, is when they cancel workouts with a players, or vice versa. If a player begins to cancel future workouts, he's been told something from someone. Usually the best way to gage on who's being promised what.

    PS- In my Mock Draft (listed on the member mock page) I currently had Channing Frye going at #21 to the Suns. My current #9 has GS choosing Andriuskevicius. However I'll be updating mine after my trips to both Chicago and New York in the next 2 weeks.
     
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    Why is it that people believe that Martynas Andriuskevicius will opt out now?
     
  12. P.A.P.

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    ^ I guess it's because nobody wants him. Well not exactly...he wants to be picked high, and the top teams won't pick him. Maybe the Jazz, but they want to trade up, and possibly the Knicks. He believes he's worth more than and 8th pick (rumoured to be drafted from 9-13), so when he comes back in 2007, he'll probably be a top 5 for sure if he develops as he's suppose to.
     
  13. J_Ray

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    The Warriors are just saying their man is Channing Frye because they want someone to drop to them, maybe the Raptors are going to be stupid and pick somebody high like last year.
     
  14. Alley-oop

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    I think Golden State would be better off taking someone like Petro over Frye. Martynas would have went somewhere from 5-10 this year and will most likely go top 5 in next years draft.
     
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    Martynas had dismal stats as a backup including a FT % around 30%,less than 2 pt 2 rbd per. He gets few minutes behind Tanoka Beard,a 6-9 ex-US college player who has some game but was not drafted or seen as a star prospect. A GM has to have some justification if Marty Andry turns out to be a 2pt a game NBA player. There are several 7 ft guys who will be lucky to get drafted...and they had better seasons. Marty Andy got pre-season hype based on a notion that he would make big progress. Didn't Happen. At one point such a rosy outlook had Marty and Chris Taft as top 5. Based on the real world,niether earned a top 20 position and,that also applies to a few imports who had also been overhyped and had poor results. I noticed the latest NBA Draft Net did some big reshuffles ,though nobody has played lately. Some moved way up,some way down,Marty Andy moved to round 3,or 2006 whichever comes first. Mock draft sites are all over the place this year,and many fans take,as the final word,whatever one seems to say.
    Look for Green to go REAL early. His game is more complete than Marvin W's already,and while Marvin is physically imposing,my gripe was always that he seldom makes use of his muscle. The big 3 point G's are real good,but not super. Paul is small and a bit inconsistant on D. Felton and Williams scored about 13ppg each which is not NBA star type scoring. I really liked what I saw of Green,and then I saw his HS stats-which say his game is more complete than I expected,and his shooters touch is scary.
     

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