Mullin Waiting for Right Deal

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  1. Shapecity

    Shapecity S2/JBB Teamster Staff Member Administrator

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The guy on the phone traded Antawn Jamison on Aug. 18, 2003, and traded Erick Dampier on Aug. 12, 2004 -- two intricate, patiently developed deals that initiated the Warriors' climb toward respectability.

    Chris Mullin, I think it might be time for another great August surprise.

    ``Oh, is it?'' Mullin said wryly from Warriors headquarters Wednesday.

    Tell me you've got something brewing -- maybe a sign-and-trade deal for Chicago Bulls restricted free agent Eddy Curry or another young center?

    ``We have different scenarios, but nothing imminent,'' Mullin said. ``Again, anything that pops up that we feel is going to make us better will be done in a blink. But today, we feel OK. Don't want to say `great,' but we feel pretty good.''

    ? Curry, a player with a worrisome heart condition but huge athletic skill, probably isn't a primary focus, though he would fit perfectly into the Warriors' lineup and mid-level salary-cap exception.

    Mullin said ``we have not had conversations'' with Curry's agent -- but added that didn't mean there wasn't some degree of interest, if minor.

    ? The Jamison and Dampier deals and the steal of Baron Davis have given Mullin and General Manager Rod Higgins the luxury of watching their young roster mature.

    The only pressing matter is the extension due Mike Dunleavy by the start of the regular season, and Mullin expects that issue to be resolved -- with Dunleavy signed for many more years, I'm assuming -- in due time.

    ? Though Adonal Foyle and Derek Fisher have been speculated as possible candidates, Mullin said the team would not use the new amnesty clause to buy out an existing long-term contract without it counting against luxury-tax tabulations.

    ? Conclusion: Too bad, no August surprise, but Mullin has a bunch of attractive, expendable pieces (Troy Murphy, Dunleavy or Mickael Pietrus, Zarko Cabarkapa) to go big-name hunting in February, when some stupid team gets tired of its centerpiece player.

    That's how Mullin got Davis this year; just imagine whom he might land -- and how far that acquisition could take the Warriors -- next time around.</div>

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  2. .cabangbang

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Conclusion: Too bad, no August surprise, but Mullin has a bunch of attractive, expendable pieces (Troy Murphy, Dunleavy or Mickael Pietrus, Zarko Cabarkapa) to go big-name hunting in February, when some stupid team gets tired of its centerpiece player.</div>

    Did I just hear Babcock offering us Bosh for Fisher [​IMG]
     
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    "? Curry, a player with a worrisome heart condition but huge athletic skill, probably isn't a primary focus, though he would fit perfectly into the Warriors' lineup and mid-level salary-cap exception."


    I don't see how Curry fits perfectly in the Warriors lineup. He doesn't rebound or defend very well. I sure don't see Curry running up and down the court in our fast paced offense. His one great skill is scoring but I think the jury is still out on exactly what kind of player Curry is/will be. I don't understand why Curry and his agent refused to take the genetic test for his heart condition. Future money is probably the culprit.

    I do agree that come the February trade deadline the Warriors do have a good hand to play.
     
  4. Run BJM

    Run BJM Heavy lies the crown. Staff Member Global Moderator

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Montay:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't see how Curry fits perfectly in the Warriors lineup. He doesn't rebound or defend very well. I sure don't see Curry running up and down the court in our fast paced offense. His one great skill is scoring but I think the jury is still out on exactly what kind of player Curry is/will be. I don't understand why Curry and his agent refused to take the genetic test for his heart condition. Future money is probably the culprit.

    I do agree that come the February trade deadline the Warriors do have a good hand to play.</div>

    Agreed, not to mention the fact that Curry has been rumored to have gained some 20-25 pound since his recent heart problems that sidelined him.
     
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    Curry rebounds about equal to J Rich,he's got a lazy streak,which also shows in his D. Add that 20 lb and you got slow-lazy...and probably expensive. [​IMG] We'd be better off with what we have...including the guys we'd likely need to give to get Curry. Take a look at Pargo,see if they match an offer to him. Maybe look at a package where we get Blatche in a deal with the Wizzers [​IMG] Send D Fish and a round 2 to ATL for Salim. Explore the low profile deals where we don't sacrafice core players.
     
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    all i got out of this article is that dundun will be extended which makes me happy
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  7. Custodianrules2

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    All I got out of this article was a bunch of nothing, actually.

    Oh, and I figure J-Rich can outrebound Curry any day of the week. It's all about wanting it more. I sure hopes we get Garnett, but the T-Wolves don't seem like the team to trade a franchise player within their own conference. But who could they get in the East that would be decent and Garnett wouldn't mind playing for. I guess us Warrior fans can only dream like any other nba fan wanting the big ticket.
     
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    Do you guys think that there is a chance that Dunleavy takes his Qualifying offer after this season if he doesnt get a contract that he wants? That would leave the 2006/07 season as a battle between Dun and Pietrus for the starting job and a nice fat contract. I cant imagine any other team paying over the MLE for Dunleavy, maybe the Clippers if Dun Sr. convinced management to make a run for him.
     
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    I agree that,so far Mike looks like he's headed for a deal in the MLE zone. I see Pietrus challenging for SF starter early this season. I think Pietrus has a good chance to win the role by midseason,but whoever has the title of starter-both will play plenty of SF minutes and get action in other roles too. Just going by online trade threads-there is a lot of interest in Pietrus,people saw star quality and hope their team can get him before the price goes way up. Nobody is offering a lot for Dunleavy,he shows up in some huge,absurd package deals,or in little trades where we get nothing special. Coaches and GM's may rate Mike higher than fans elsewhere,but I don't see a bidding war where Mike is looking at $8 mill per.

    It's gonna be a new season,and if the W's are rolling,everyone gets more respect. I expect SOMEONE...maybe several guys,will start the season with an improved game,with some weak areas upgraded,some skills polished,even with a higher level of effort and energy-based of a sense that this is a real challenger at last and every game matters. We tend to agree around here that certain players need to improve in various areas. I figure those players have some idea what skill they need to polish,where they need a bigger effort. It's gonna be interesting to see who surprises us with their progress.
     
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    JRich has become rock solid but I wouldn't be suprised if he's dealt later on down the road. Right now he's better in every facet of the game of basketball than Pietrus except defense but by the end of 06-07, Pietrus could be better than JRich.

    Pietrus could technically play the SF position and that's an option for us but I don't think it's realistic. Pietrus is injury prone and unless he bulks like Ron Artest, I don't see how his body would take the punishment from guys who are 30 lbs heavier.

    So my main point is that if Pietrus continues to develop and Diogu and Biedrins don't solve our frontcourt problems, we could make a package of JRich/Murphy/Biedrins, Diogu, Zarko or 1st rounder for J O'neal, Brand or Yao. Bird has blatantly stated that if the Pacers don't go all the way it will be on Jermaine's shoulders and will look elsewhere. The Clippers always seem to have a capable roster of making the playoffs but fall short. If they have a farm sale, Brand could be a possibility. Yao is more of a pipedream but if Mullin is that close to Yao's agent and Rowell is still in love with Yao, a sign+trade is possible. Of course Houston desperately wants to keep him but if he refuses to sign, what can they say? Might as well get another scorer, PF upgrade and another piece.

    In conclusion: Richardson is a great 2nd option to build around but due to Mullin's spending spree last year and our lack of a dominant front court presence, JRich would be the best option to land a conveted big man. I hate to give him up but who else besides BDiddy could possibly land us these guys? That Baron Davis trade was ridiculous and it would be foolish to expect those big men I mentioned at that price. Diogu and Biedrins are bandages to stop the bleeding, but it's unfair to expect them to lead us to be an elite team like San Antonio, Sac (few years ago) etc.

    Finally I think Pietrus can be a superstar. He's like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. One night he's a star and the next night he's the village idiot. With some more seasoning and PT, he could be like a Ginobili. His defense changes the frame of the game. Remember 2 years ago? If Pietrus leaves, he'll make Gilbert Arenas' departure look like Terry Cummings.
     
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    JRich has become rock solid but I wouldn't be suprised if he's dealt later on down the road. Right now he's better in every facet of the game of basketball than Pietrus except defense but by the end of 06-07, Pietrus could be better than JRich.

    Pietrus could technically play the SF position and that's an option for us but I don't think it's realistic. Pietrus is injury prone and unless he bulks like Ron Artest, I don't see how his body would take the punishment from guys who are 30 lbs heavier.

    So my main point is that if Pietrus continues to develop and Diogu and Biedrins don't solve our frontcourt problems, we could make a package of JRich/Murphy/Biedrins, Diogu, Zarko or 1st rounder for J O'neal, Brand or Yao. Bird has blatantly stated that if the Pacers don't go all the way it will be on Jermaine's shoulders and will look elsewhere. The Clippers always seem to have a capable roster of making the playoffs but fall short. If they have a farm sale, Brand could be a possibility. Yao is more of a pipedream but if Mullin is that close to Yao's agent and Rowell is still in love with Yao, a sign+trade is possible. Of course Houston desperately wants to keep him but if he refuses to sign, what can they say? Might as well get another scorer, PF upgrade and another piece.

    In conclusion: Richardson is a great 2nd option to build around but due to Mullin's spending spree last year and our lack of a dominant front court presence, JRich would be the best option to land a conveted big man. I hate to give him up but who else besides BDiddy could possibly land us these guys? That Baron Davis trade was ridiculous and it would be foolish to expect those big men I mentioned at that price. Diogu and Biedrins are bandages to stop the bleeding, but it's unfair to expect them to lead us to be an elite team like San Antonio, Sac (few years ago) etc.

    Finally I think Pietrus can be a superstar. He's like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. One night he's a star and the next night he's the village idiot. With some more seasoning and PT, he could be like a Ginobili. His defense changes the frame of the game. Remember 2 years ago? If Pietrus leaves, he'll make Gilbert Arenas' departure look like Terry Cummings.
     

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