Warriors vs. Kings October 16

Discussion in 'Golden State Warriors' started by .cabangbang, Oct 14, 2005.

  1. AnimeFANatic

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    Yeah, Dunleavy is a lot like Larry Bird. They're both white. Thats about it.
     
  2. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AnimeFANatic:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah, Dunleavy is a lot like Larry Bird. They're both white. Thats about it.</div>

    And they both have mustaches, although Dunleavy's really isn't a mustache.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">If I were to compare Dunleavy to a character on Friends the way the Sac announcers do to their players, it would be that Dunleavy is Gunther the coffee shop manager. Yeah, I didn't notice him much either on that show.</div>

    That is sig material right there. Dunleavy: Kind of like Gunther on Friends, he shows up once and then you dont see him for about 10 episodes. [​IMG]
     
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    And Gunther never scores, ahaha. Man, Sac announcers are pretty lame if they compare their players to characters on TV shows.
     
  5. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Warriorfansnc93:</div><div class="quote_post">That is sig material right there. Dunleavy: Kind of like Gunther on Friends, he shows up once and then you dont see him for about 10 episodes. [​IMG]</div>

    Haha, exactly [​IMG]
     
  6. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AnimeFANatic:</div><div class="quote_post">And Gunther never scores, ahaha. Man, Sac announcers are pretty lame if they compare their players to characters on TV shows.</div>

    Yeah, I guess it's one reason to appreciate Jim Barnett for his old school knowledge. He'll give you that and not go off into irrelevent comparrisons out of what they think is deemed "witty". I just wish Barnett would call the game more and stop shilling over Dunleavy so much.
     
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    Maybe Dunleavy is not taking the pre-season seriously and its waiting for the season to start. regardlessof what happen in this game there is going to have to be a better commitment from the players if they are even half way serious of making the playoffs. That not only goes for Dunleavy but, for the veterans also. I hope that the players don't start to believe their own hype about them finally making the playoffs. I know it is just a pre-season game but the attitude that the team is going to need to finally end the playoff drought has to start now. I hpoe that the team comes out with more fire in the next game.
     
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    lol wat was the score at the end? haha yeah my parents blocked the words "sports" lol i just want to look for a sec XD
     
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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    Hey AnimeFanatic, who is that girl in the animated gif you have there?
     
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    Looks like HyoLee, could be wrong though. Hah, the King's fans must be laughing our asses off cause the W's got their asses handed tonight. Always a chance for redemption in the actual season. I bet you the Warrior's already have it circled on their calenders.
     
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    Hope some of you guys know about our bench players that you said are "Not great". I'm not bragging or anything, I know these games don't mean anything so don't think I'm being cocky, but Martin is a nice player (15 points) and our rookie Garcia done well(13 points). The Warriors didn't play as well as they can, they are a good team.
     
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    Warriors lost again

    I know its only preseason but 2 losses in 2 games has me a bit worried already. This team has such high expectations this year that i can't help to remember the past couple Warriors teams who just let us fans down. I am a bit shaky and thats all i am saying.
     
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    To be fair you guys were without JRich and the last game was against Sacto who are a very good team. Everyone on there starting 5 could score 20 so don't get too worried, it's only preseason.
     
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    We also won once, I think. It's better to lose early then lose late, that way we don't get lax when the real season starts. We're still one player away from sucking like we did. The motivation is to get to the playoffs. You can't take nights off when that is your goal.
     
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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shootingmachine:</div><div class="quote_post">Hope some of you guys know about our bench players that you said are "Not great". I'm not bragging or anything, I know these games don't mean anything so don't think I'm being cocky, but Martin is a nice player (15 points) and our rookie Garcia done well(13 points). The Warriors didn't play as well as they can, they are a good team.</div>
    Hey shootingmachine/giantmidget, just so you guys know, it'll probably be more effective to talk a little about these players that nobody else has seen, to the specific guys you disagree with. Like what does Francisco Garcia do well for that team? What does Kevin Martin do well? Describe these players so others can relate and have an idea. I study up on the NBA so there's very few players that I don't know, but I can only fit so much in one post before people start to ignore it because of the length.

    Also when you have a disagreement it helps to specifically address it to the people that first said it rather than give the appearance of generalizing that the forum is going with the flow and they agree on everything being said by other Warriors fans. Silence doesn't mean that we agree with what is being said. It's just that nobody was thinking about the Kings all that much and people were focussing on the Warriors more, that's all.

    Like for instance, I gave props to the Sacramento bench and mentioned specific players like Kevin Martin and Francisco Garcia, but it was either missed or not even recognized by the Kings fans that a Warrior fan spoke up for the Kings bench. And what is considered "deep?". I think both sides need to address that issue first rather than argue over "yes they are" and "no they are not" and just name names nobody is familar with.

    Also when two Kings fans come on the board to defend their team, that's all right, but it also shows that two Kings fans have an agenda on the Warriors forum when they purely focus on what they disagree with rather than what they agree with. I think the proper thing would be to focus on the big picture here and recognize what is being said by various, specific people about the Sacto bench rather than appear to address the forum as a whole. Give credit where credit is due and try to understand where some of the various warriors fans are coming from in that they won't always agree on what is considered a deep bench.

    It would be like if I went to the Sacto forum and found two posts that weren't fair observations of the Warriors, and I focussed only on the ones I disagreed with rather than the ones I agreed with. Also, maybe I don't need to address it like I'm calling out "certain unknown members" on the whole Sacto forum, but reply to the two individual posters DIRECTLY and ask them to explain their position. We as Warrior fans don't all agree. Silence doesn't mean we agree. It was just considered not all that important in the flow of the discussion amongst Warrior fans to stop it and evaluate it more detailed.

    I'm sure you guys will figure this out in no time.
     
  17. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting openglfx:</div><div class="quote_post">Looks like HyoLee, could be wrong though. Hah, the King's fans must be laughing our asses off cause the W's got their asses handed tonight. Always a chance for redemption in the actual season. I bet you the Warrior's already have it circled on their calenders.</div>
    We have few guys who set the tone consistently and we've had issues scoring the high % ball and playing defense + rebounding. I'm not all that suprised. Peja can score and he can shoot the lights out when he's hot. Shareef is an all around guy that can score the buckets. Bonzi Wells is a solid player who can score from almost anywhere. They have Bibby the playmaker and pick and roll master. They've got Brad Miller who is simply a great secondary set up man from the high post and is an all around guy. Also, let's not forget that bench... The Kings have a lot of weapons whereas the Warriors really only have two major weapons plus a supporting cast which I believe aren't right for the team. Our frontcourt and our middle is pretty weak which is why we have to run a lot, so it's just our backcourt that does the tone setting. If we had an inside guy that could defend and set up outside shooters we'd be closer to where I'd like the team to be. Hopefully, Diogu is that guy we've been missing because what we have now is going to make the 8th seed tough to get to.
     
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    Well, I have to say there is way too much hype among us. I don't think anybody will admit that this team will go 14-5 everytime and win 61 games, but there were certainly a hype that this team will do far more than just making a PO. For that, yesterday's game was a good reality checker.

    `Davis is good. Very good.
    `After Davis, I think we are underestimating the importance of Richardson. But, without him, we may also be in big trouble. Murphy can only mimic 2nd option, and Dunleavy and Pietrus didn't even attempt to fill the void.
    `The main reason I really don't buy the idea of 'Dunleavy can do everything' is because he only looks good when his shooting is falling, and when it does not like yesterday, he looks invisible. Was hoping to see better defense against Peja too.
    `Pietrus has been disappointing so far. He still is a spark plug and the most productive player in 20 mins, but when he is starting, he looks lost.
    `Murphy looks better than last season, and even try to go to inside against Kings frontline.
    `If Fisher didn't get that ridiculous contract... Yes, we understand you want to be agressive. But, there is a fine line between being agressive and being a ballhog and trying to mimic Jamison's shot (note: you are not Jamison). First, try to run the team a bit.
    `Kings are good jump shooting team, and we just couldn't stay with own players way too many times. Defense needs a work badly.
    `If we can't run, we are in trouble.
    `If Foyle is out, nobody even attempts to defend the middle...
     
  19. Custodianrules2

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Duck**ster:</div><div class="quote_post">Maybe Dunleavy is not taking the pre-season seriously and its waiting for the season to start. regardlessof what happen in this game there is going to have to be a better commitment from the players if they are even half way serious of making the playoffs. That not only goes for Dunleavy but, for the veterans also. I hope that the players don't start to believe their own hype about them finally making the playoffs. I know it is just a pre-season game but the attitude that the team is going to need to finally end the playoff drought has to start now. I hpoe that the team comes out with more fire in the next game.</div>
    I think Dunleavy takes it seriously, maybe the knee surgery is bothering him? Or maybe it's the same as always, he just struggles because he's not quick or strong, he doesn't use his size advantage often or he's not gifted as a shooter as people would like to think. Shooters need to get in rhythm so they shoot unconsciously. Dunleavy never seems to get in rhythm right away. He is just is too unselfish with the ball and he thinks too much when he does decide to shoot which is why I think he misses real badly sometimes. He does have the appearance that he is soft, unaggressive, and uncaring. Sleepwalking, if you will. But I don't think that's the case. He's just disappointing because he never does anything consistently, he's hardly noticeable from a fan's POV but gets all the attention from oldschoolers like Barnett, and nobody likes athletes with lottery pick draft hype viewed as soft, timid and slow (all the ingredients for a guy that can't live up to the highest expectations in the NBA as a 3rd overall pick).

    Dunleavy is his own worst critic so I feel for the guy. He's kind of all alone in that corner.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting openglfx:</div><div class="quote_post">Looks like HyoLee, could be wrong though. Hah, the King's fans must be laughing our asses off cause the W's got their asses handed tonight. Always a chance for redemption in the actual season. I bet you the Warrior's already have it circled on their calenders.</div>


    What do you mean? Anyways I hope Sacto and the Warriors can develop a rivalry because in ** eyes they are fairly even but the Kings have a bit of an edge (Maybe I only think that because I'm a Kings fan). I think it will be great to see the two teams face off in the regular season.
     

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