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  1. BrianWestbrook

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrianWestbrook)</div><div class='quotemain'>These guys are called profesionals for a reason</div>

    Unless that list includes is of self-serving, whiney, egocentric, professional pinheads then I guaran-damn-tee that list does NOT include Terrell

    I'm so glad the Eagles have a bye this week so the McNabb and Eagle A$$ kissers in the media might actually have to talk about something worthwhile.</div>


    What, like your Dolphins? I'd rather talk about a team that's actually going to do something this season
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrianWestbrook)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrianWestbrook)</div><div class='quotemain'>These guys are called profesionals for a reason</div>

    Unless that list includes is of self-serving, whiney, egocentric, professional pinheads then I guaran-damn-tee that list does NOT include Terrell

    I'm so glad the Eagles have a bye this week so the McNabb and Eagle A$$ kissers in the media might actually have to talk about something worthwhile.</div>


    What, like your Dolphins? I'd rather talk about a team that's actually going to do something this season</div>

    Spoken like a man whose team is in last place, coming off a blowout loss to divisional opponent, with a teammate wearing the other teams jersey on the way back from loss, looking through silver and green shades.
     
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    Note to ou Ignorant(I thought this would make a nice touch [​IMG]) Eagle fan.

    They are HUMANS!!!!!!!!!

    The human mind is a fragile and sensitive thing. No way can Owens teammates think any good of him when he wore that jersey if they care of the Eagle organization unless it was some sort of bet. Then they might understand.

    Whether they say something or not it probably pisses a lot of teammates off. Now most Eagles won't say anything because they just got out of one soap and I doubt they want another. Look at the media distractions that went on.

    With all this said when you on the field it really doesn't matter. Your adrenaline is so high thay your not thinking about what your doing when you get home or who you hate or who's you boy. Your thinking about the game.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>
    Spoken like a man whose team is in last place, coming off a blowout loss to divisional opponent, with a teammate wearing the other teams jersey on the way back from loss, looking through silver and green shades.</div>


    for once BF1's funny [​IMG]
     
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    [quote name='BrianWestbrook'][quote name='DolfanDale'][quote name='Giantsfan1']I actually like what he did. Keep the lose lingering aroun, piss off some guys so they get back on their butts and do what they need to do........I hope they dont though ll I like my team in first [​IMG][/quote]

    It's called giving aid and comfort to the enemy. Owens isn't motivating his teammates. He's embarrassing them and destroying their confidence and morale. He's distracting the Eagles from their true goal of winning a Super Bowl and filling their heads with clutter. (if I may borrow some of Coach Saban's intellectual property) Owens is destroying the Eagles from within. It makes me wonder if he's someone's payroll other than the Eagles.

    The fact that anyone could put a positive spin on this Owens' antic brings home the reality of this statement.

    [quote name='DolfanDale']Until this moment, I never truly understood how precariously some of you guys dangle over the edge of hype tethered to reality only by the irresistable gravity of my wisdom.[/quote][/quote]


    Really? He's destroying the Eagle's confidence and morale huh? Did you interview the Eagles team recently, and they poured their hearts out saying how TO is destroying their dreams and all their hopes? I didn't hear any talk of how much of a cancer he was after the 42-3 masacre, or any other win we had this season. After we beat San Diego and TO gets his TD dance, we'll see how much of a cancer he is.[/quote]

    No, I haven't interviewed the Eagles. I have watched NFL Football for 30 years and I can make astute observations based on that vast experience. I can tell you that a player wearing a division rivals' jersey after that team has given your team an all day country butt whuppin is an unforgivable sin. I can't think of too many Championship teams over the past 30 years that would have tolerated that crap. Do you think anyone could have gotten on a Raiders bus wearing a Chiefs jersey at any point in the last 30 years? Do you think that Jack Lambert or Mean Joe Greene would have allowed anyone on their bus or plane in a Cleveland Browns jersey? I can't imagine Tedi Bruschi, Mike Vrabel or (oh my heavens!) Rodney Harrison sitting quietly while a teammate boarded with a Dolphins, Jets or Bills jersey on. Why? Because these teams have backbones. I have to wonder about the Eagles because if 50 men can't impose their will on one wayward player, then how will they impose their will on an entire opposing team? The Eagles will win their fair share of games on talent, but at some point they will be beaten by a team with less talent, but more testicular fortitude (like the Cowboys last week) than they have which doesn't appear to be very much these days. My point is that the Eagles need to grow a collective set or they won't win a World Championship.

    After you beat the Chargers? Oh, by all means, go ahead and look past the Chargers. They are a very good team and if the Eagles don't show up to play then they can get their backsides handed to them again.
     
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    Could you see Vince Lombardi tolerating with a incident like that. I doubt it. Maybe thats why the Eagles keep coming close but can't get over the hump.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrianWestbrook)</div><div class='quotemain'>What, like your Dolphins? I'd rather talk about a team that's actually going to do something this season</div>

    Very professional, BW.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Spoken like a man whose team is in last place, coming off a blowout loss to divisional opponent, with a teammate wearing the other teams jersey on the way back from loss, looking through silver and green shades.</div>

    Spoken like a man whose team is in the NFC North, where competition is about as tough as the special olympics.

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>They are HUMANS!!!!!!!!!

    The human mind is a fragile and sensitive thing. No way can Owens teammates think any good of him when he wore that jersey if they care of the Eagle organization unless it was some sort of bet. Then they might understand.

    Whether they say something or not it probably pisses a lot of teammates off. Now most Eagles won't say anything because they just got out of one soap and I doubt they want another. Look at the media distractions that went on.

    With all this said when you on the field it really doesn't matter. Your adrenaline is so high thay your not thinking about what your doing when you get home or who you hate or who's you boy. Your thinking about the game.</div>

    I agree with your on-the-field talk, but it seems people are forgetting that. Yes the human mind is "fragile and sensitive," but I doubt wearing a jersey of divisional rival is going to make Dawkins or McNabb cry in their sleep. The teamates not commenting on the subject is a good thing, reinforcing the idea that these players are over the media overplaying everything TO does. Maybe they just don't care at all? Is that too hard to accept?

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Very professional, BW.</div>

    No not very professional, but I forgot that these forums require a degree in journalism. I'm sure that calling the media ass kissers is the professional thing to do then.

    Dale, I respect your opinion and your experience (if that's what you'd like it to be called) in observing football games, but the fact is that no one knows what's going on in these players minds. No one knows what effect TO's behavior will have on this team. Is it so hard to say, "Maybe the players just ignore it?" No it's not, he is one player and this team is filled with leadership. I know that the SD game is going to be a tough one, but I am very confident in the Eagles. The Chargers are not the best pass defense, in fact they're one of the worst. The Eagles on the other hand, are the best passing offense. Now their are alot of other factors, like stopping LT and Gates. The Eagles shut down Tony Gonzalez and Priest Holmes, two of the best at their positions. Why can't the Eagles D stop the Chargers offense? Coming off a bye, I think this will be a victory.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrianWestbrook)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Spoken like a man whose team is in last place, coming off a blowout loss to divisional opponent, with a teammate wearing the other teams jersey on the way back from loss, looking through silver and green shades.</div>

    Spoken like a man whose team is in the NFC North, where competition is about as tough as the special olympics.

    </div>

    Way to defend your erroneous statements by changing subject and attacking something else. Good luck with that strategy. Might work if i looked at world through colored glasses like you, but i dont.
     
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    Well, Brian Westbrook, I've never claimed to be more than a fan. You seem to think that I'm not qualified to form an opinion about professional football because my only "experience" is watching football games. If that's the case, then we should just shut this message board down because NONE of us are qualified to say anything about football. The truth is that you don't like the point that I have presented and can't face the fact that I could be right. Don't feel bad. Your not the first poster to do this. Just go read Zachman's "Should The Pack Trade Brett Favre to the Jets" thread.

    Where is all this leadership from the Eagles? The last time I watched the Super Bowl, I saw an Eagles team, that was still in the game, squander a chance at a World Championship by walking around without any direction or emotion. Where was the leadership then? Why can't a few team leaders, like the captains, pull Terrell Owens to the side and tell him to get his act together?

    You say that the Eagles have one of the pass offenses, but they've only played five games and they've been held to 10 points twice already.

    Like I said, go ahead and write down a victory over the Chargers before the Eagles have earned it. Do it in indelible ink.
     
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    Brian Westbrook, you can not come here and tell us not to give our opinions because we have not interviewed the player in question. And DolfDale is right, if that is the case then nobody can have an opinion on anything related to the nfl because we are mere fans.

    T.O was wrong and the team seem afraid of T.O

    That is the ultimate insult for a team that was beaten badly by a divisional rival. It seems when things are going well, T.O is an eagle but any sign of danger and T.O is back to his antics. It's getting old.
     
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    i get it now since he is not making this big things like dancing with pom poms, or taking out a sharpie and signing a ball anymore ppl take somthing so stupid and make it a big deal. You guys act like this guy kiled someone HE WORE A JERSEY!!!!!!!. Get over it it was not a ig deal and will not be a big deal.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (T.Oforphil81)</div><div class='quotemain'>i get it now since he is not making this big things like dancing with pom poms, or taking out a sharpie and signing a ball anymore ppl take somthing so stupid and make it a big deal. You guys act like this guy kiled someone HE WORE A JERSEY!!!!!!!. Get over it it was not a ig deal and will not be a big deal.</div>

    No, you don't get it. He wore the jersey of a division rival right after that rival dished out a royal butt kicking. The reason none of his Eagle teammates have said anything is because Terrell Owens has successfully emasculated them.
     
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    thats becuase agian i repeat he wore a jersey. yes i know they are a rival i am a eagles fan but you are acting like this was a big deal that should of been handled. What about Bledsoe and keshawns fight, that was a big deal keshawn is figthing over the fact that he dropped the ball talk about that not about how T.O wore a jersey of a team. So what he wore a jersey of a good player, alot of ppl wear jerseys of a real good player. I have seen a patriots fan wear a colts shirt. I have seen a dalas fan wear a T.O jersey. I understand your point but dont make a big deal about it. This thread is stupid and should not of been put up. Thats my opinion i say this because all the guy did was wear a jersey and you are talking about getting rid of a cancer, Like what T.O did effected the team in a huge way.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (T.Oforphil81)</div><div class='quotemain'>thats becuase agian i repeat he wore a jersey. yes i know they are a rival i am a eagles fan but you are acting like this was a big deal that should of been handled. What about Bledsoe and keshawns fight, that was a big deal keshawn is figthing over the fact that he dropped the ball talk about that not about how T.O wore a jersey of a team. So what he wore a jersey of a good player, alot of ppl wear jerseys of a real good player. I have seen a patriots fan wear a colts shirt. I have seen a dalas fan wear a T.O jersey. I understand your point but dont make a big deal about it. This thread is stupid and should not of been put up. Thats my opinion i say this because all the guy did was wear a jersey and you are talking about getting rid of a cancer, Like what T.O did effected the team in a huge way.</div>

    This thread is stupid and should not have been put up? Are you against free speech? Did I make a point that scares you? Have you actually read this thread? I'm beginning to think that you haven't because several posters have agreed with me. Of course, it hasn't escaped me that you have a Terrell Owens avatar, so I wouldn't expect you to agree with me. You say that all he has done is wear a jersey. Haven't you been keeping up with pro football since January? The jersey incident is just the straw that should have broken the Eagles backs, but apparently none of them have a backbone to break. By the way, I'm not talking about sports fans wearing jerseys. I'm talking about a member of the Philadelphia Eagles wearing a Dallas Cowboys jersey right after the Cowboys beat the snot out of the Eagles. It's just too bad that Irving Owens doesn't have the same ring as Hanoi Jane.

    Side note - I think Keyshawn Johnson is just as malignate of a form of cancer as Terrell Owens. Keyshawn has proven that you don't have to have talent to be an NFL Diva. Just a big mouth.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrianWestbrook)</div><div class='quotemain'>Spoken like a man whose team is in the NFC North, where competition is about as tough as the special olympics.</div>

    To defend the North. The Packers and Bears alone are the most decorated teams in the HISTORY OF THE NFL. Everyone has there ups and downs. Gee how did the Eagles end up picking McNabb in 99. They must've not of been that good. So, far from special oylmpics. Or do I have to start to referr to the past of the Eagles now. How many Super Bowls?


    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I agree with your on-the-field talk, but it seems people are forgetting that. Yes the human mind is "fragile and sensitive," but I doubt wearing a jersey of divisional rival is going to make Dawkins or McNabb cry in their sleep. The teamates not commenting on the subject is a good thing, reinforcing the idea that these players are over the media overplaying everything TO does. Maybe they just don't care at all? Is that too hard to accept?</div>

    I would bet that McNabb and Dawkins are very dissapointed in TO. Notice the relationship the Patriots have with each other. It's like one big family. Then notice the relationships with the Eagles. Now I know your thinking "relationships don't matter in football"

    Well New England 3 Super Bowls
    Philadelphia 0

    Edit: I am also not mad at TO wearing the jersey. It's the timing of wearing it that would probably make McNabb and Dawkins upset. Also if they were to say something. The media would eat that up. McNabb & Dawkins vs TO in a Handicap Feud. The last thing they would want is that.
     
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    It is not quite on this scale but it is similar to if we went to war with China, and on the way back to base after they massacred your platoon, one of your fellow soldiers, starts waving a chinese flag. The difference is TO actions will tear team apart, or they will rally together to beat TO(which if they are fighting 2 front war they will lose) where as teh moron waving flag could simply be shot for treason
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (T.Oforphil81)</div><div class='quotemain'>i get it now since he is not making this big things like dancing with pom poms, or taking out a sharpie and signing a ball anymore ppl take somthing so stupid and make it a big deal. You guys act like this guy kiled someone HE WORE A JERSEY!!!!!!!. Get over it it was not a ig deal and will not be a big deal.</div>

    You just listed all his "sins" and while one of them is not a big deal but all of them together ARE!

    Forget looking at the world thru colored lenses if you can not see what a detriment to the Eagles TO is then you must be swimming in Egypt as you are in Denial.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (T.Oforphil81)</div><div class='quotemain'>thats becuase agian i repeat he wore a jersey. yes i know they are a rival i am a eagles fan but you are acting like this was a big deal that should of been handled. What about Bledsoe and keshawns fight, that was a big deal keshawn is figthing over the fact that he dropped the ball talk about that not about how T.O wore a jersey of a team. So what he wore a jersey of a good player, alot of ppl wear jerseys of a real good player. I have seen a patriots fan wear a colts shirt. I have seen a dalas fan wear a T.O jersey. I understand your point but dont make a big deal about it. This thread is stupid and should not of been put up. Thats my opinion i say this because all the guy did was wear a jersey and you are talking about getting rid of a cancer, Like what T.O did effected the team in a huge way.</div>

    I think it is fair to say that if this was the only TO did - to wear the jersey - it wouldn't be that bad. The timing would be an issue to me, though. Plus, it just seems like there is always something like this going on with TO. Yes, he and Irvin are friends and it was more a player-player respect thing. I understand why he likes the jersey and wants to wear it. There's also a think called tact and timing. TO doesn't have either.

    Just because a Dallas fan wears a TO jersey doesn't make both situations right. [​IMG]

    I think the Bledsoe-Meshawn episode WAS a big thing - I got tired of hearing about it. KJ can be a cancer too, and while he probably handled it poorly, Bledsoe kind of started something he shouldn't have. KJ was probably also overracting because he was probably still hurting.....man, he got clocked pretty good. I bet that felt good for whichever corner that was.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>To defend the North. The Packers and Bears alone are the most decorated teams in the HISTORY OF THE NFL. Everyone has there ups and downs. Gee how did the Eagles end up picking McNabb in 99. They must've not of been that good. So, far from special oylmpics. Or do I have to start to referr to the past of the Eagles now. How many Super Bowls?</div>

    How is the North now? Terrible, and no, the Eagles have not won a SB, but a few world championships aren't bad. Especially '47-'48, only 2 championships won by shut out back to back.

    BF, that doesn't compare to it at all. That's just a totally overblown statement when compared to this.

    Dale, once again, do you know if anyone said anything to TO, does anyone care? Why is it automatically, "No Eagles player has stepped up and said anything!" Why can't anyone think that maybe someone did say something to him, or that they just don't care about it? I know I laughed at it when I saw it, why can't the teamates? We can't all be hugging one extreme and not accept the other, and that's what most people are doing. Everyone is simply saying TO is a cancer and everything he does destroys the team. What if the team enjoys his behavior? I just don't understand why people are jumping to conclusions without having any factual information concerning the teams attitude. Yes, I understand that someone can get upset by this, but I just think that the team is too strong to be distracted by one player's off-the-field behavior. Personally, I just shrugged it off and said "It's TO being TO," and I don't think it's that hard for a profesional football player.
     

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