Official Draft Thread

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  1. Stockton

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    The Jazz currently have the 46th and 47th picks in the draft, and unless they get a lot of luck in the lottery they'll also have the 14th pick. Who should the Jazz try to draft with these picks? Where do the Jazz need the most help? Should the Jazz make a trade?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Stockton:</div><div class="quote_post">The Jazz currently have the 46th and 47th picks in the draft, and unless they get a lot of luck in the lottery they'll also have the 14th pick. Who should the Jazz try to draft with these picks? Where do the Jazz need the most help? Should the Jazz make a trade?</div>

    I been waiting for this thread forever...

    The positions that the Jazz need the most help on is a shooter, a pure shooter that'll spread the floor for Boozer and AK to work inside...
    and a enforcer, a banger, someone that'll play physical, it was a pain in the ass this year seeing Collins, Ostertag, Okur getting bossed around inside. Someone that'll grab those rebounds, clean up the garbage and put up a good fight(or hard fouls) against the Elton Brand's and Garnett's.
     
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    IF you do need a shooter as much as KS1 says you guys should draft JJ Redick and for an inside presence, maybe Shelden Williams could slip that low to #14. For your second round picks, players like Guillermo Diaz, Marco Killingsworth and Quincy Douby could all possibly be around there.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Buckets:</div><div class="quote_post">IF you do need a shooter as much as KS1 says you guys should draft JJ Redick and for an inside presence, maybe Shelden Williams could slip that low to #14. For your second round picks, players like Guillermo Diaz, Marco Killingsworth and Quincy Douby could all possibly be around there.</div>
    Most likely, we can take JJ Reddick with the 14th pick. He's not a freak athletically or that talented on defense, but he's a hard worker...and Sloan'll enjoy that.
    As for Marco Killingsworth, he would be a great pick for the Jazz to play inside, he's undersized, but knows how to use his body well, which makes up for his size. He's a banger and an excellent rebounder. I can't see him slipping to the late 40's though. Maybe we could trade up a couple spots from him. I was still thinking more of a center that can bang...because Boozer's 6'9 should make him play PF and Okur also plays PF.
    And just as I was thinking, Guillermo would be an excellent pick in the 2nd round. He's freakish athletic abilities would allow for him to play the two and to take it strongly inside, he also does have pretty good range from the outside. Still can't see him slip into the 40's though...again, maybe trade up a couple spots for him.
     
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    Tell you the truth, we don't need a shooter IMO, we need a shot blocker or inside presence on D. Why do we need another SG when we Giri, Brown, and C.J.? Another SG might mess with C.J.'s confidence ruining a promising player, why take Redick? As for Killinsworth and Guillermo Diaz, Killinsworth will go undrafted IMO, and Guillermo will be gone by the time we're up in the 2nd round, Quincy Douby will work his way up into the mid-1st round if not the lottery. In the 2nd round look for guys like Hassan Adams or maybe Rudy Fernandez to slip that far. I really like guys like Terrell Everett or perhaps Mustafa Shakur in the 2nd round that are big PG's that could come in and get minutes in Utah right away. We're the masters in drafting players in the 2nd round as of late, so I like our 2 2nd round picks. As for the 1st round, I think some possiblities are Mardy Collins, Cedric Simmons, and maybe Bobby Jones but I think JBB's mock is majorly overrating them, he could slip into late 1st round at best. I'll be happy even with a Marcus Williams or Kyle Lowry, because we need a half way decent back up PG but Sloan plays a lot of 2 PG lineups, ala Lopez and Mo Williams 2 years ago, Palacio and D-Will this year. Utah is building something good as long as they keep the core intact, now they need to build onto it. I think the decision on Harpring could sway what we pick, I hope we have a good offseason, that's all I'm hoping for.....
     
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    With Greg Ostertag retiring, and the possibilty of Jarron Collins and Robert Whaley leaving going big in the draft should help Utah. Ostertag's retirement leaves room for a shot blocker inside as Boozer and Okur aren't known for their blocking.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Stockton:</div><div class="quote_post">With Greg Ostertag retiring, and the possibilty of Jarron Collins and Robert Whaley leaving going big in the draft should help Utah. Ostertag's retirement leaves room for a shot blocker inside as Boozer and Okur aren't known for their blocking.</div>
    What about Cedric Simmons?! He's one guy that I can see going in the late teen's, who has a nice solid body, and is a pretty good blocker. He's 6'9 though, so more of a PF than Center...what we need is a defensive center who can bang right now...any ideas?!
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting KS1:</div><div class="quote_post">What about Cedric Simmons?! He's one guy that I can see going in the late teen's, who has a nice solid body, and is a pretty good blocker. He's 6'9 though, so more of a PF than Center...what we need is a defensive center who can bang right now...any ideas?!</div>

    Perhaps J.P. Bautista but I feel we can get something better than that in the 2nd round. I'd like to get a player like Josh Boone but we'd have to trade down or move up in the 2nd round. I have the feeling he's going to fall extremely like Taft last year. Another name that popped up for me was Hilton Armstrong, but he's not much of a banger. The center crop is really weak this year, so maybe that NY pick in couple years could end up being #1 overall and Oden stays in school awhile and we could get him [​IMG]
     
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    If J.J. Redick slips to #14, he'd be the steal of the draft. Forget this nonsense about athleticism and height; the kid's got the sweetest shot of anyone I've ever seen play college ball, and I've been watching college ball for about twenty years now. People focus too much on his inability to create space for himself off the dribble. They forget that he's amazing at using screens, very comparable to a Rip Hamilton and Reggie Miller. He's also got a very reliable mid-range game, a lost art in today's game.

    Cedric Simmons is a logical pick if you're going by team needs, but he's all 'potential' at this point. He's a great shotblocker just because of his height and length, but he doesn't have great instincts, especially on the offensive end of the floor. I'm also a little worried about his consistency. When players are as inconsistent as he is, it's often the result of a poor work ethic ala Stromile Swift, so I'm not sure if he'll fit in with Sloan's system as well as a player with great drive like Redick.

    As for the second round, I'd look to go big if Redick were your first pick. Some names that come to mind are J.P. Batista, Terence Dials, Justin Williams, and Eric Hicks; players who'll give you some toughness and rebounding on the interior.
     
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    ^Exactly what I was thinking, J.J. Redick would be an excellent pick for the Jazz if he actually slips to 14, I've seen him gone as high as 9 in some other mock drafts...his shooting touch is just incredible.
    What do you think about Shawne Williams?! I liked the job he did against Adam Morrison, his scoring abilities and blocking instincts. But I've seen him go from anywhere from 15 to the late 40's in some mock drafts...I have no idea where he's going to be taken if he DOES stay in the draft.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting KS1:</div><div class="quote_post">I been waiting for this thread forever...

    The positions that the Jazz need the most help on is a shooter, a pure shooter that'll spread the floor for Boozer and AK to work inside...
    and a enforcer, a banger, someone that'll play physical, it was a pain in the ass this year seeing Collins, Ostertag, Okur getting bossed around inside. Someone that'll grab those rebounds, clean up the garbage and put up a good fight(or hard fouls) against the Elton Brand's and Garnett's.</div>

    <font size=""4""><font color=""RoyalBlue""><font face=""Comic Sans MS"">I agree with 99% of your post except the part about Okur. If you check his rebounding numbers, you'll see he's a better than decent rebounder. Even on nights when he disappears on offense. He is a position rebounder, so even if it looks like he's playing soft, he remains effective.

    For reasons I can't understand, the organization is happy with Collins contribution..including Sloan. Finally, It's a pretty tall order to go get somebody via draft or trade who can cope with Brand or KG</font></font>.</font>
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting KS1:</div><div class="quote_post">
    What do you think about Shawne Williams?! I liked the job he did against Adam Morrison, his scoring abilities and blocking instincts. But I've seen him go from anywhere from 15 to the late 40's in some mock drafts...I have no idea where he's going to be taken if he DOES stay in the draft.</div>

    I actually got to see most of the Tiger's games live this season and was at the Gonzaga game where he did so well against Morrison, but he really needs another year or two in college because his mental grasp of the game just isn't there right now. He's got a decent jumper. It's a little awkard looking, but it falls most of the time. All he needs to do offensively is work on his shot selection, which was downright awful at times this season. He's got the raw talent, but either the coaching staff failed him this season or he didn't put in the effort, because his shot selection only got worse as the season went on instead of getting better, so you've also got to wonder about his work ethic. I can see him being a solid third or fourth option in the NBA about four or five years from now, someone who would be worth a lottery pick. However, that's assuming that whatever team drafts him will have the patience to develop his talent, which I don't think a lot of teams with high picks will want to do, so I can see him slipping to the late first round, early second as the worst case scenario.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">I actually got to see most of the Tiger's games live this season and was at the Gonzaga game where he did so well against Morrison, but he really needs another year or two in college because his mental grasp of the game just isn't there right now. He's got a decent jumper. It's a little awkard looking, but it falls most of the time. All he needs to do offensively is work on his shot selection, which was downright awful at times this season. He's got the raw talent, but either the coaching staff failed him this season or he didn't put in the effort, because his shot selection only got worse as the season went on instead of getting better, so you've also got to wonder about his work ethic. I can see him being a solid third or fourth option in the NBA about four or five years from now, someone who would be worth a lottery pick. However, that's assuming that whatever team drafts him will have the patience to develop his talent, which I don't think a lot of teams with high picks will want to do, so I can see him slipping to the late first round, early second as the worst case scenario.</div>


    LMAO, I just looked at Draftexpress.com, #47 pick for Utah.....Shawn Williams [​IMG] Crossing the fingers [​IMG] I hope Utah gets DW Jr. if they do draft a Tiger. I remember reading an article that said he's got potential mostly due to the shorts he wears. Wearing shorts that are down to his ankles and he's still that fast! Imagine if he busted out the old Stockton shorts [​IMG] I'm hoping for another PG because Sloan likes to use 2 PG lineups a lot, and I'm tired of McLousy and D-Will, and Miltness is just mentoring C.J. I think someone is destined to slip in the draft, maybe it's another wacky draft and someone drafts Sene in the Lottery, and Utah can get a guy that slips......
     
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    Does anyone know when we'll start working out players?
     
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    I hear the rumor so far, that Ager looks like he's #1 on our list after the few workouts, but he did some unbelievable shooting up in Utah and had no problem with the altitude......
     
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    The Jazz have used four first round picks on shooting guards since 1999. They are Quincy Lewis, DeShawn Stevenson, Sasha Pavlovic and Kirk Snyder. If the Jazz draft a shooting guard with their first round pick, hopefully they can spend more than their rookie season with the Jazz[​IMG] .
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Stockton:</div><div class="quote_post">The Jazz have used four first round picks on shooting guards since 1999. They are Quincy Lewis, DeShawn Stevenson, Sasha Pavlovic and Kirk Snyder. If the Jazz draft a shooting guard with their first round pick, hopefully they can spend more than their rookie season with the Jazz [​IMG] </div>


    I'm hoping for the same thing, the only thing that I want from this draft is a player that can step in and contribute on Utah. Sure Sloan doesn't like playing rookies but this could be the year where he has to play the rookies......
     
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    Jazz Will Pick 14th in NBA Draft

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Utah Jazz had only a 0.5 percent chance to win Tuesday's NBA draft lottery. Those slim odds did not work in their favor. With the best record (41-41) among the lottery-eligible teams, Utah landed the 14th pick in the June 27 draft, as determined by the lottery proceedings in Secaucus, N.J. Toronto, which had only an 8.8 percent chance, came away with the rights to the top selection. Chicago, which acquired New York's pick via last year's Eddy Curry trade, will draft second, while Charlotte moved up to No. 3. Portland, which had the league's worst record, and thereby a 25 percent shot at the top pick, dropped to fourth. The remainder of the lottery teams will draft as follows: Atlanta, Minnesota, Boston, Houston, Golden State, Seattle, Orlando, New Orleans and Philadelphia.</div>

    <div align="center">Source</div>
     
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    i say if jj is there TAKE HIM. He is a scorer, no doubt anout it, u guys could use a guy to score and here he is. As for the second round, i'd look for a banger.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheFreshPrince:</div><div class="quote_post">i say if jj is there TAKE HIM. He is a scorer, no doubt anout it, u guys could use a guy to score and here he is. As for the second round, i'd look for a banger.</div>

    Redick can definitely fill it up, or at least he could on the collegiate level, but I'm beginning to wonder if Ager wouldn't be the better pick afterall. He's probably going to have an easier time scoring on the next level, because he's so quick, explosive, athletic, and has the ability to create his own shot. Now, while I think that the knocks on Redick's ability, or lackthereof, to get his shot off on the next level are exaggerated, there's no doubt that Ager will have an easier time because of his natural abilities.
     

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