Official Draft Thread

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  1. J_Ray

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">Redick can definitely fill it up, or at least he could on the collegiate level, but I'm beginning to wonder if Ager wouldn't be the better pick afterall. He's probably going to have an easier time scoring on the next level, because he's so quick, explosive, athletic, and has the ability to create his own shot. Now, while I think that the knocks on Redick's ability, or lackthereof, to get his shot off on the next level are exaggerated, there's no doubt that Ager will have an easier time because of his natural abilities.</div>


    LMAO Homer.....j/p [​IMG] I really think you don't need to be good to get open in Utah's system actually. Look at some of the players we have [​IMG] McLousy and The Miltness were getting shots like they had AIDS and no one wanted to cover them. Sorry if that offends anyone but it's AIDS awarness week here at my school [​IMG] I think anyone that will play with heart and effort every second they're on the court that can pick up a system will succeed here. If we get someone that will play a little D, they'll come in and contribute right away if Harpring leaves, I think Ager with his talent he showed all season *Cough* (Maui Open) would be sweet in Utah's system. Only thing I hear that is he's not really into playing defense from what I've heard. You can correct me if I'm wrong, but Sloan thrives on D, we were the original team to play defense like Spurs and Pistons, just they decided to get athletic players and we stayed with the white hard nosed unathletic guys [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting J_Ray:</div><div class="quote_post">LMAO Homer.....j/p [​IMG] I really think you don't need to be good to get open in Utah's system actually. Look at some of the players we have [​IMG] McLousy and The Miltness were getting shots like they had AIDS and no one wanted to cover them. Sorry if that offends anyone but it's AIDS awarness week here at my school [​IMG] I think anyone that will play with heart and effort every second they're on the court that can pick up a system will succeed here. If we get someone that will play a little D, they'll come in and contribute right away if Harpring leaves, I think Ager with his talent he showed all season *Cough* (Maui Open) would be sweet in Utah's system. Only thing I hear that is he's not really into playing defense from what I've heard. You can correct me if I'm wrong, but Sloan thrives on D, we were the original team to play defense like Spurs and Pistons, just they decided to get athletic players and we stayed with the white hard nosed unathletic guys [​IMG]</div>

    Ager's not the greatest defender in the world, but he's not a potential liability like Redick, and the ability's there; it's just that he doesn't always choose to play both ends of the floor. However, look at all the best wing prospects likely available at #14 - Maurice Ager, Shawne Williams, Rudy Fernandez, J.J. Redick, and Richard Roby. None of them are exactly defensive standouts. In fact, Ager's probably the best of the bunch.

    As for me being a homer, I know it was a joke, but I just wanted to say that although I loved having Ager at Michigan State for four years (see: Av & Sig), I'm more of a fan of him as a person than him as a player. I really see a lot of flaws with his game. He's selfish, sporadically shows horrible shot selection and decision making, and he's a bit undersized for the typical NBA shooting guard. Still, despite all his flaws, he's probably the best fit for the Jazz at this point because of his athleticism.

    Let me throw another name out there for discussion: James White. I know it may seem like a stretch at #14 now, but he's skyrocketing up most draft boards with recent impressive workouts, and if you go back far enough, you'll see that there was a time when he was considered a top three pick (see: http://web.archive.org/web/20020718191008/...//nbadraft.net/)
     
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    Redick would definitely be on the top of my list if I were a Jazz fan. Believe me, I've watched him light up my Heels for 4 years and throw out the athletic ability or size he can shoot the lights out. Pair him with Deron Williams in the backcourt with AK-47 and maybe a guy like Leon Powe in the second round and you got yourselves a promising young lineup.
     
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    Besides JJ Reddick...
    The players I like to see the Jazz drafted are either, although we might have to trade up a few spots for them(overall, the top 14 picks of the draft are solid) Patrick O'Bryant, Randy Foye, and Rodney Carney.

    Patrick O'Bryant(my favorite pick) has an outstanding frame, he's 7 feet tall and has a body that can be filled out even more in the weight room. He's also a dominant shot blocker, a good rebounder, and can also likes to play around the basket...The only problem about him is that he plays like how the team is playing, he hasn't developed that killer instinct yet, that aggresivness that just keeps going.
    Randy Foye is a scorer, from anywhere on the floor, he can score. He's a great slasher with excellent body control, and has improved his outside shot a lot this year. Also, an excellent aggresive defender and a great floor leader. The problem with him is that he'll shoot with no hesitation, no matter the situation.
    Rodney Carney, is an athletic freak. He has amazing quickness and a strong slasher body. He, like Randy Foye, can score in numerous ways, but I like him more because of his height. The problem with him is that he tend to shy away from going to the basket when he can just pull up for a jumper. He's also a very streaky shooter.
     
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    Two players I'd like to get right now is perhaps a Quincy Douby or Rudy Fernandez. I know both would be reaches but I've been thinking both could fit into the system, Sloan doesn't play rookies, it's that simple. So otherwise they'd have time to develop in Utah, Douby has the ability to fill it up but is a combo guard that can dish out the ball too. I was told by the Euro scout at DE that Rudy Fernandez has excellent vision for a 6'6" SG, he has passing ability of a PG but can also make that mid-range shot that Utah system gets. Sure we don't get the shooter we need but has Utah ever really had that shooter? We got Giri, and C.J. is an excellent shooter, I'd give him a year or two before he starts playing, if I recall right, he was a shooter in HS. If we go big, I'm going to cry because of the players that would be there. A stick figure O'Bryant, Undersized centers Simmons and Williams who have long arms that helped them dominate in college.....help! Then Hilton Armstong is horrific IMO...Boone, can you say effort, I know he can't......Paul Davis would be a rich man's Jarron Collins, but a reach at that spot....finally Aaron Gray is like an uncoordinated Ogre that always was close enough to the basket that he could lay it in! I think Paul Milisap might be a good player here, remember the last Lousiana Tech PF we had [​IMG]
     
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    Jazz wouldn't mind trading up in draft

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Jazz have readily acknowledged that they wouldn't mind trading up in the June 28 NBA Draft.
    They even suggest there is a good chance they'll make a significant deal before the 2006-07 season begins ? and, no, that is not a reference to last week's swap that sent youngsters Kris Humphries and Robert Whaley to Toronto for former BYU star Rafael Araujo.
    Beyond that, though, it seems there is plenty more smoke where the fire is being fanned.
    And, as has so often been the case since shortly after he arrived as a free agent from Cleveland in 2004, it seems $68 million power forward Carlos Boozer is smack dab in the oven of hot talk.
    The Houston Chronicle recently reported that the Jazz ? who currently own the No. 14 overall selection in this month's draft ? join Portland, New Orleans/Oklahoma City, Golden State, Philadelphia and Orlando on the long list of teams that "would like to move up" by draft night.
    Seattle, which currently has the 10th pick, and Toronto, which owns the No. 1 overall, both reportedly are interested in perhaps moving down.
    Last week, while addressing e-mail questions from readers in the Chicago Tribune, longtime NBA writer Sam Smith answered a query from Salt Lake City by writing that "it seems clear (Boozer's) not thrilled with Utah and they haven't always been with him and his injuries."
    "At some point," Smith added, "the Jazz may just have to take a draft pick to get out from under his salary."</div>

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    Currently DraftExpress, Hoopshype and NBAdraft.net all have the Jazz drafting JJ Redick at 14.
     
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    Jazz deal? Utah isn't ruling out big trade

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">With Carlos Boozer trade rumors still swirling, but no deal imminent, Jazz basketball boss Kevin O'Connor on Wednesday did not rule out the possibility of a major offseason swap.
    "Let me reiterate this, and I think it's important: We feel like we made a very good improvement from a year ago. And obviously we needed to," said O'Connor, the Jazz's senior vice president of basketball operations. "But we're not finished . . . If we could get a great player, would we trade somebody? The answer is, 'Yes.'
    "So, we would look to improve our team. That's just part of the nature of what happens. It's written about a lot more than it happens, but it does happen ? and I'm not saying it won't."
    Boozer has been the subject of trade speculation since word of a potential deal with the Los Angeles Lakers surfaced in February of 2005, less than seven months after the power forward came to Utah from Cleveland via free agency.
    The Jazz apparently engaged in preliminary discussions regarding Boozer, and perhaps other players, with multiple teams earlier this month at the NBA pre-draft camp in Orlando.
    Last Sunday, the Akron (Ohio) Beacon Journal reported Memphis is talking with Utah about Boozer.
    On Wednesday, the Racine (Wisc.) Journal-Times reported Utah, Atlanta, Toronto and Golden State are "among the teams that have been linked" to trade-target Jamaal Magloire and that the veteran center seemingly gives the Bucks "the ammo to acquire either Troy Murphy from Golden State or Carlos Boozer from Utah."</div>

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Even a bad back that may — repeat, may — require surgery will not prevent the Jazz from perhaps using their No. 14 overall selection in Wednesday's NBA Draft on Duke University shooting guard J.J. Redick.
    Jazz basketball operations senior vice president Kevin O'Connor declines to comment on Redick's health status. But Utah's basketball boss does say Redick remains in play as a possible pick for the Jazz.
    "He's still not only a consideration," O'Connor said Thursday, "but a prime consideration."
    Selecting the consensus national player of the year, however, could prove to be a risky proposition for any team picking as high as the Jazz.
    Redick performed well, and apparently injury-free, when he auditioned May 30 in Utah. But he canceled workouts last week in Orlando, Minnesota and Boston, citing a sore back. He also supposedly canceled a session scheduled Saturday in Philadelphia, and it remains to be seen if he'll work out again before the draft.
    "It's been confirmed by doctors that he hurt his back," Boston Celtics basketball boss Danny Ainge told the Boston Herald last week. "We're just not sure what the extent of the injury is."
    DraftExpress.com reported last week that Redick "will be out for an extended period of time with a back problem that may require surgery." An official from the agency representing Redick, the Web site also reported, "denied there are issues that might lead Redick to (undergo) surgery and sit out for four months."
    On Wednesday, the Charlotte Observer reported that Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski "said Redick has a disc problem" that caused him to cancel last week's workouts.
    At issue, then, seems to be whether or not surgery is indeed needed — or if Redick can play through the injury. Moreover, this question lingers: If surgery is performed, will Redick be fully healthy afterward?
    Ex-University of Oregon star Luke Jackson, for instance, has had to undergo surgery to repair a herniated disc twice in less than two years after Cleveland drafted him No. 10 overall in 2004.
    Two other issues further complicate matters from the Jazz's perspective.
    One is that Utah has been burned in the past by gambling on a hot prospect with injury issues (see Curtis Borchardt, 2002). The other: Redick was arrested last week for alleged drunken driving.
    WORKOUT BLUES: The Jazz's draft workout Thursday did not amount to much in terms of first-round implications.
    Potential second-round picks Solomon Jones of South Florida and Yemi Nicholson of the University of Denver auditioned, but projected first-rounder Alexander Johnson of Florida State sat out with a hamstring injury.
    North Carolina State big man Cedric Simmons had earlier canceled his planned Thursday visit to Utah, with his agent citing what the Jazz said was a promise from another team that he'll be taken before they pick at 14.
    Utah, however, has two big-name workouts planned this weekend.
    Saturday's tentatives: 7-foot Senegalese Mouhamed Saer Sene and Bradley center Patrick O'Bryant, both back for repeat visits; Ukrainian big man Oleksiy Pecherov, who plays for Paris Basket Racing in France; and Gonzaga power forward J.P. Batista, a likely second-rounder.
    Sunday's tentatives: Michigan State shooting guard Maurice Ager, also back for a second visit; Arkansas shooting guard Ronnie Brewer and University of Memphis swingman Rodney Carney, both probable lottery picks; and Thabo Sefolosha, a Swiss-born shooting guard with South African roots who played most recently in Italy.</div>

    Redick still 'prime consideration' for Jazz
     
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    Jazz Mock Drafts

    NBA.com - Rodney Carney
    DraftExpress - J.J. Redick
    SI.com - Quincy Douby
    ESPN Insider - Randy Foye
    Sportsline - Ronnie Brewer
    Inside Hoops - J.J. Redick
    Fanball - Cedric Simmons
    ProBasketballNews - Rodney Carney
    CollegeHoops.net - Saer Sene
     
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    All depends on who's left...it's a tossup between a center or shooting guard although I think we're more in need of a center...also, I wonder what CJ Miles is doing right now(his training)? and he's standings with the Jazz coaching staff...
    I'm hoping for either Patric O'Bryant(long shot) or Rodney Carney

    Center
    1. Patrick O'Bryant
    2. Saer Sene

    Shooting Guard
    1. Rodney Carney
    2. J.J. Redick
    3. Randy Foye
    4. Shannon Brown
     
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    Jazz selected Ronnie Brewer.

    But I know nothing about college ball because I don't watch it. Someone tell me if this was a good pick...
     
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    We got another steal in Dee Brown, wonder how he'll fit in, in Utah......He's know as the 1 man fast break and he's got chemstry with D-Will.


    Paul Milisap was another steal, bad showing at Orlando camp dropped his first round stock.

    Overall draft I give an A+, we got 3 first round prospects that I think will be good players down the road.
     
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    Dee Brown is an absolute steal. How he was available that late is unbelievable. Props to the Jazz for picking him up when they did, and to reunite him with Derron Williams is a huge plus.
     
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    The Jazz had a great draft. Not many expected Ronnie Brewer to fall to them at 14, but his athleticism and defense should fit in well with Utah. Dee Brown could turn out to be a steal at 46, and he has played with Deron Williams before.
     

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