Sportsline College Football Playoffs

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  1. ranman

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    Vote For the Winners

    Everyone that is dreaming that the NCAA Football should have playoff here's your chance to make your dream come true sorta. This guy really took sometime to put up a system that would work. I don't think anyone would have a problem with this system.
     
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    I would love to see this system. But then you would have people bitchin about the at-large bids.
     
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    The only problem with it would be the amount of time it takes to do it, maybe if they shortend the amount of games to 10 per year, doing it with the same amount they have now would spell disaster afterall these kids are Student-Athletes and it would severly conflict with finals.
     
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    Maybe they could start the college football season a couple of weeks earlier. If they did shorten the season it would get rid of the "warm up" games like Minnesota vs. Toledo. As for the other bowls do the same thing it would be like the NIT for NCAA fottball. If the Division I-AA, Division II, and Division III can have a playoff system why can't Division 1-A Football?
     
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    That is a horrible system in my opinion. It's to long and why would they take teams that one the Sun Belt. They have no shot at beating USC or anyone on their for that matter. If they were really that good like Utah they would of received in at large bid to the playoff system. Not go 7-4 and get in because they won a soft conference.
     
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    I am opposed to a playoff all together. Every other sport has one, so this system makes them unique. Plus, if you go to playoff where conf. champ gets in, it makes non-conference losses irrelevant to an extent, since if you win conf you are in anyway. The current system makes EVERY game critically important to every team.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>Plus, if you go to playoff where conf. champ gets in, it makes non-conference losses irrelevant to an extent, since if you win conf you are in anyway. The current system makes EVERY game critically important to every team.</div>

    How is any different now? The Non-conferance game don't count right now! Just look at Florida State with 4 losses getting in the Orange Bowl. All they had to do is win there conferance in a playoff. It didn't matter what there record was during the regular season, they won the games and earned the right to be there no matter there record.

    Notre Dame loses to Michigan State(who's not even ranked) and USC and still get a BCS game? Ohio State loses to Texas and Penn St. and get a BCS game without earning it in a playoff. The only reason that they are playing in the Fiesta Bowl is because who they are and not what they did. In college you lose one game and you get royally screwed. If you lose 2 games your sitting pretty because of your name. I could guarantee if Ohio State and/or Notre Dame met Oregon in a playoff game, Oregon would win. In the NFL if you lose 1, 2, 3, or 4 games you can still make the playoffs and have a chance to win the Superbowl.

    I know that the first round most of the games would be blow outs. After that all the Bowl games would be a BCS calibure games. Teams like Arkansas State, Boise State, Tulsa, TCU, and Akron would get some exposure to the national spotlight for once. Just maybe on of these teams could knock off a big opponet and be the Cinderella team.

    I got another question if the system is so great why doesn't the AP or the Coachs Poll doesn't want there polls to be considered in the BCS formula?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ranman)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>Plus, if you go to playoff where conf. champ gets in, it makes non-conference losses irrelevant to an extent, since if you win conf you are in anyway. The current system makes EVERY game critically important to every team.</div>

    How is any different now? The Non-conferance game don't count right now! Just look at Florida State with 4 losses getting in the Orange Bowl. All they had to do is win there conferance in a playoff. It didn't matter what there record was during the regular season, they won the games and earned the right to be there no matter there record.

    Notre Dame loses to Michigan State(who's not even ranked) and USC and still get a BCS game? Ohio State loses to Texas and Penn St. and get a BCS game without earning it in a playoff. The only reason that they are playing in the Fiesta Bowl is because who they are and not what they did. In college you lose one game and you get royally screwed. If you lose 2 games your sitting pretty because of your name. I could guarantee if Ohio State and/or Notre Dame met Oregon in a playoff game, Oregon would win. In the NFL if you lose 1, 2, 3, or 4 games you can still make the playoffs and have a chance to win the Superbowl.

    I know that the first round most of the games would be blow outs. After that all the Bowl games would be a BCS calibure games. Teams like Arkansas State, Boise State, Tulsa, TCU, and Akron would get some exposure to the national spotlight for once. Just maybe on of these teams could knock off a big opponet and be the Cinderella team.

    I got another question if the system is so great why doesn't the AP or the Coachs Poll doesn't want there polls to be considered in the BCS formula?</div>
    I was referring to winning a title, not going to bowl game, your point while, somewhat valid, isnt in reference to determining champino
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ranman)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>Plus, if you go to playoff where conf. champ gets in, it makes non-conference losses irrelevant to an extent, since if you win conf you are in anyway. The current system makes EVERY game critically important to every team.</div>

    How is any different now? The Non-conferance game don't count right now! Just look at Florida State with 4 losses getting in the Orange Bowl. All they had to do is win there conferance in a playoff. It didn't matter what there record was during the regular season, they won the games and earned the right to be there no matter there record.

    Notre Dame loses to Michigan State(who's not even ranked) and USC and still get a BCS game? Ohio State loses to Texas and Penn St. and get a BCS game without earning it in a playoff. The only reason that they are playing in the Fiesta Bowl is because who they are and not what they did. In college you lose one game and you get royally screwed. If you lose 2 games your sitting pretty because of your name. I could guarantee if Ohio State and/or Notre Dame met Oregon in a playoff game, Oregon would win. In the NFL if you lose 1, 2, 3, or 4 games you can still make the playoffs and have a chance to win the Superbowl.

    I know that the first round most of the games would be blow outs. After that all the Bowl games would be a BCS calibure games. Teams like Arkansas State, Boise State, Tulsa, TCU, and Akron would get some exposure to the national spotlight for once. Just maybe on of these teams could knock off a big opponet and be the Cinderella team.

    I got another question if the system is so great why doesn't the AP or the Coachs Poll doesn't want there polls to be considered in the BCS formula?</div>
    I was referring to winning a title, not going to bowl game, your point while, somewhat valid, isnt in reference to determining champino</div>

    It would settle another problem if more than 2 teams go undefeated. It would be a true championship. Every team that wins there conference should have a chance for the National championship. The at larges would be wild card teams.

    Maybe the NFL should adapt the college system. Just screw the playoffs! There no way that there going to put Chicago in the Superbowl. Lets just put Colts and Seahawks in the Superbowl. Now as a Bears fan wouldn't you be a little pist. Your team wins the division no chance to win the Superbowl because you lost too many games.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ranman)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ranman)</div><div class='quotemain'>

    How is any different now? The Non-conferance game don't count right now! Just look at Florida State with 4 losses getting in the Orange Bowl. All they had to do is win there conferance in a playoff. It didn't matter what there record was during the regular season, they won the games and earned the right to be there no matter there record.

    Notre Dame loses to Michigan State(who's not even ranked) and USC and still get a BCS game? Ohio State loses to Texas and Penn St. and get a BCS game without earning it in a playoff. The only reason that they are playing in the Fiesta Bowl is because who they are and not what they did. In college you lose one game and you get royally screwed. If you lose 2 games your sitting pretty because of your name. I could guarantee if Ohio State and/or Notre Dame met Oregon in a playoff game, Oregon would win. In the NFL if you lose 1, 2, 3, or 4 games you can still make the playoffs and have a chance to win the Superbowl.

    I know that the first round most of the games would be blow outs. After that all the Bowl games would be a BCS calibure games. Teams like Arkansas State, Boise State, Tulsa, TCU, and Akron would get some exposure to the national spotlight for once. Just maybe on of these teams could knock off a big opponet and be the Cinderella team.

    I got another question if the system is so great why doesn't the AP or the Coachs Poll doesn't want there polls to be considered in the BCS formula?</div>
    I was referring to winning a title, not going to bowl game, your point while, somewhat valid, isnt in reference to determining champino</div>

    It would settle another problem if more than 2 teams go undefeated. It would be a true championship. Every team that wins there conference should have a chance for the National championship. The at larges would be wild card teams.

    Maybe the NFL should adapt the college system. Just screw the playoffs! There no way that there going to put Chicago in the Superbowl. Lets just put Colts and Seahawks in the Superbowl. Now as a Bears fan wouldn't you be a little pist. Your team wins the division no chance to win the Superbowl because you lost too many games.</div>

    You are missing the point
     
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    I got to say I'm for a playoff system but not that one.

    1. That one is to long.
    2. There are two many good teams left out.

    I would use the BCS to determine the top 4 teams. Have the top 4 teams in the BCS Standings play a two round playoff. 1 vs. 4. 2 vs. 3. You will NEVER see more than 4 unbeaten teams from the major conferences. There is to much parody in sports today for that to happen. You'll see your Utah?s once in a while but not one person thought Utah was going to beat USC, OU, or Auburn. Now those 3 teams are a different story. At the time there were those who thought Auburn was the best. USC was the best and OU was the best...

    By having a 4 team playoff determined by the BCS you would still get that every game is important feeling every week. You would then get a playoff which would give you 2 extra money making games to watch and you'd get an undisputed National Champion. The BCS is still a factor but there is a playoff system. You can also still have your other Bowl games like the Cotton and Outback Bowls... It's a win-win situation...
     
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    What your point than? I told you my point. It a messed up system that needs to be fixed. A playoff system would fix it.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ranman)</div><div class='quotemain'>What your point than? I told you my point. It a messed up system that needs to be fixed. A playoff system would fix it.</div>

    My points:
    1) it is unique system and makes it interesting
    2) if you let conference champs into playoff, it devalues non-conference loss. Losing a game is not as big of a deal, like it is now in race for title. Not for NONTITLE GAME, for TITLE GAME.
    3) losing one game now can cost you title, however if conf champ goes then you can lose every non-con game and still go.
     
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    i'm with porky's theory have the BCS do the rankings and then have a 4 or 8 team playoff, thats what i've thought they should do for a while
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>
    My points:
    1) it is unique system and makes it interesting
    2) if you let conference champs into playoff, it devalues non-conference loss. Losing a game is not as big of a deal, like it is now in race for title. Not for NONTITLE GAME, for TITLE GAME.
    3) losing one game now can cost you title, however if conf champ goes then you can lose every non-con game and still go.</div>

    Maybe having 16 teams is a little too much. Cut it down to 8 have the Pac-10, ACC, Big Ten, SEC, Big 12, and Big East, champs automatic bids and 2 at large teams. Top 2 teams get a 1st round bye. Use the BCS formula for at large bids.

    There is a way to solve the whole non-conference thing have no non-coference games. Tell the I-A Independents, people who don't which teams they are Army, Navy, Notre Dame, and Temple that have to disband and join another conference. If the teams want to play ouside of the conference, it would be an exibition game.

    I'm just saying that for once maybe there is a different way to determine a National Champion. It would be more interesting seeing USC and Texas work there way throught teams that actually have a chance of beating them. Instead of a National Championship Game given to one of them. Don't tell that no one watch these games. The ratings would be through the fucking roof.
     
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    I don't know why I'm fighting for a playoff system in College Football. Because it never going to happen. Arguing with BF1 is getting me nowhere, so Fuck it who cares!
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ranman)</div><div class='quotemain'>I don't know why I'm fighting for a playoff system in College Football. Because it never going to happen. Arguing with BF1 is getting me nowhere, so Fuck it who cares!</div>

    Ah, yes fuck it. The hippies will always lose Lebowski, the hippies will always lose.
     
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    the dude abides
     
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    Easy guys, take it down a notch. "This aggression will not stand."

    I'd have to say, I'd be in favor of a playoff of some kind. Some teams going to a decent bowl game haven't played a game since November. There's two or three games that can be played in there and still accomodate for finals week.
     
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    Someone said that they'll never be a college football playoff system. I disagree with that. Especially now that congress is getting involved and asking the BCS to turn into a playoff system. I still think 8 teams would be to much. 4 teams in my opinion works the best but that's just what I think.
     

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