What a fricking joke this is....Hes the 3rd lowest rated passer in whole NFC....his numbers on the year: 2136 yards passing, 13 Tds, 12 Ints 534 yards rushing, 6 Tds, 10 Fumbles I cant believe this shit....let the Vick hype machine roar its engines....Ty Law making the pro bowl was a joke, but not on this level....if i ever saw Vick play quaterback well in a football game, Id die of surprise....this is a travesty, shame, a mockery....a traveshamockery....
Through 9 games this year McNabb had 2507 yards passing, 16 TD's and 9 INT's Thats more then Vick had all year. Thats sooo funny.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheBeef)</div><div class='quotemain'>What a fricking joke this is....Hes the 3rd lowest rated passer in whole NFC....his numbers on the year: 2136 yards passing, 13 Tds, 12 Ints 534 yards rushing, 6 Tds, 10 Fumbles I cant believe this shit....let the Vick hype machine roar its engines....Ty Law making the pro bowl was a joke, but not on this level....if i ever saw Vick play quaterback well in a football game, Id die of surprise....this is a travesty, shame, a mockery....a traveshamockery....</div> Vick Making the pro bowl does make me want to puke but honestly who didn't see it coming? He'll make it every year on media hype alone. Oh and at least at one time Ty law was a legit pro bowler...though I agree he shouldn't have made it. Bakes, Are you sure the fans get 2/3 of the vote? I though they got 1/3 and players/coaches get 2/3.
The problem is a lack of good QB's in the NFC. With McNabb, Culpepper and Bulger hurt, and Favre skills diminishing there is not much better then Vick. As a complete package, it's hard to argue that someone else should have been elected. Eli Manning, Mark Brunnel...Neither one of them is Pro Bowl quality either. Bledsoe??? Not really. Thats the problem, lack of quality QB's on the NFC.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Eagles4Life)</div><div class='quotemain'>The problem is a lack of good QB's in the NFC. With McNabb, Culpepper and Bulger hurt, and Favre skills diminishing there is not much better then Vick. As a complete package, it's hard to argue that someone else should have been elected. Eli Manning, Mark Brunnel...Neither one of them is Pro Bowl quality either. Bledsoe??? Not really. Thats the problem, lack of quality QB's on the NFC.</div> Your exactly right.. Also the fans count as 1/3 of the vote...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bakes781)</div><div class='quotemain'>How can u say Eli isn't pro bowl quality? He's an MVP candidate IMO.</div> Come on man... Tiki Barber is the MVP of that team, plus he has Burress and Shockey. And his QB rating is not much higher then Vick's, 75.4 to 71.8. I would say Brunell with QB rating of 87 is more of a Pro Bowler then Eli.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Eagles4Life)</div><div class='quotemain'>The problem is a lack of good QB's in the NFC. With McNabb, Culpepper and Bulger hurt, and Favre skills diminishing there is not much better then Vick. As a complete package, it's hard to argue that someone else should have been elected. Eli Manning, Mark Brunnel...Neither one of them is Pro Bowl quality either. Bledsoe??? Not really. Thats the problem, lack of quality QB's on the NFC.</div> While I don't think Manning is MVP material, and I don't think either of the three alternatives you mentioned are top-6 QBs in the NFL, I think any of those three deserve a shot before Vick. All three have better stats and play on teams that have at least equal, if not better, records than Vick.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bakes781)</div><div class='quotemain'>Doesn't Eli lead the NFC in TD passes?</div> Here's the stats for NFC QB's listed by Passer Rating. Rank Player Team Yds Att Cmp TDs Ints Long Rating 1 Matt Hasselbeck SEA 3215 420 271 22 9 56 96.3 2 Marc Bulger STL 2297 287 192 14 9 57 94.4 3 Mark Brunell WAS 2797 418 246 20 8 78 87.0 4 Jake Delhomme CAR 2998 384 234 20 15 80 86.5 5 Drew Bledsoe DAL 3188 437 267 21 14 71 86.1 6 Kurt Warner ARI 2713 375 242 11 9 63 85.8 7 Donovan McNabb PHI 2507 357 211 16 9 91 85.0 8 Brad Johnson MIN 1390 218 132 8 4 80 83.7 9 Chris Simms TB 1607 246 150 6 5 78 79.8 10 Eli Manning NYG 3314 492 259 22 16 61 75.4 11 Brett Favre GB 3305 519 321 19 24 53 73.1 12 Daunte Culpepper MIN 1564 216 139 6 12 68 72.0 13 Michael Vick ATL 2136 337 183 13 12 58 71.8 14 Aaron Brooks NO 2882 431 240 13 17 66 70.0 15 Joey Harrington DET 1599 267 154 9 11 86 69.2 16 Kyle Orton CHI 1810 354 184 9 13 54 59.9 Eli is tied with Matt Hasselbeck with 22 TD passes, but his 16 int's are also good for 3rd place in the conference. While Brunell has 20 TD's and only 8 int's.
Eli Manning started off really hot, and he cooled down when all the pro bowl votes were coming in. The media kept saying over the last couple of weeks how Eli was struggling, so i think that had some effect
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bakes781)</div><div class='quotemain'>im just shocked favre didnt get in </div> Favre never gets in any longer. Last year he got screwed out of a spot as well. Vick got in over him last year which didn't bother me but Favre deserved it more.
Ron Mexico making the Pro Bowl has led me to conclude that the Pro Bowl Voting System needs an electoral college with the most votes going to the areas with the greater DWO population.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vikingfan)</div><div class='quotemain'>I say send Orton.</div> In the pro bowl and not starting for his team
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bakes781)</div><div class='quotemain'>im just shocked favre didnt get in </div> Favre never gets in any longer. Last year he got screwed out of a spot as well. Vick got in over him last year which didn't bother me but Favre deserved it more.</div> He is not getting screwed. He just traded away his appearance in one of his deals
Beef. just be glad he's not on the AFC. And he is consitant, see, he has thrown about the same amount of touchdowns to interceptions like he did last year.