Mario Williams

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  1. kcgsc

    kcgsc Chiefs Enthusiast Extraordinaire

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    The NFL channel just announced that Houston had a deal worked out to make M. Williams the first pick in tomorrow's draft. Wow!
     
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    I think it was a 6 year 54 Million Dollar Deal, quite a bit of money!
     
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    Wow. Houston passing on Reggie. Incredible!

    Now, if the Saints take Vernon Davis, imagine how really messed up things will get?
     
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    that would secure A.J Hawk for the PAckers so i'd be all for it!
     
  5. Hawk

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    Well some people were sayin' the Texans already had a solid RB in Domanick Davis so maybe thats why they passed on Bush.
     
  6. panthersare#1

    panthersare#1 The GM

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    A lot of people are beating up on Mario Williams. Super Mario is a great player and there is a reason why the texans are taking him. DEs are more valuvble than RBs. So people of Texas, if Reggie Bush was a bust you would blame and want to fire the GM, not yourselves. Mario is the smarter pick.
     
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    I think it was a business decision solely (signability) - that's a bad way to make the pick.

    It doesn't matter how good of a career Williams has, if Bush becomes a superstar, people in Houston will be pissed (and rightly so).
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (panthersare#1)</div><div class='quotemain'>A lot of people are beating up on Mario Williams. Super Mario is a great player and there is a reason why the texans are taking him. DEs are more valuvble than RBs. So people of Texas, if Reggie Bush was a bust you would blame and want to fire the GM, not yourselves. Mario is the smarter pick.</div>
    right....
     
  9. DP

    DP He shoots, he scores!

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    Dont bring topics back...
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DaPackersGb)</div><div class='quotemain'>Dont bring topics back...</div>
    I maybe wrong on this but a PLEASE will go along way on this
     
  11. Pack Attack

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    People are bagging on the Williams pick, but give the guy a chance to develop. He's got one NFL start and he's still learning.

    The only reason people are still harping on this is because of Domanick Davis's unfortunate injury. The Texans made what they felt was the right decision for them based on personnel AT THE TIME. If they could see into the future, they obviously would have done it differently.

    All this in addition to the fact that Bush was being a punk at the time talking about "record money." The Texans probably didn't want the hassle.
     
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    fearthefro085 nfl-*****s member

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    -all the fans wanted bush
    -williams was a project
    -Bush is the better player now
    -Davis wasn't that good

    worst draft pick of all time.
     
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    panthersare#1 The GM

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    Gary Kubiak can transform a late round back into a 1200 yard rusher, so why invest a #1 overall pick when you already have a already underated RB with two straight 1200 yard season in the NFL? The texans might not have a 1000 yard rusher this year due to the fact that kubiak has to get his zone blocking system in and the right lineman through draft and free agency, but once he does he can take a late round back and make him a star.

    The texans defense was ranked 32nd overall!! That is why they got super mario. Super mario occuplys double and triple teams which frees up other guys on the line. If travis johnson finally gets his act toghter and Babin gets some sacks the will free up mario, but untill they do he wont get lots of sacks. If he ever gets one on one he is gonna do well and be a sack machine. Dont give up on this pick so early.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>worst draft pick of all time.</div>
    Ryan Leaf
    Akili Smith
    Tony Mandarich
    Cade McNown

    Shall I continue?
     
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    no, worst pick ever was Eagles taking McNabb over Williams... ROFL!
     
  16. J-E-T-S 1083

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    Mario Williams is definatly not the worst pick of all time thats a fact we dont even know if Bush will pan out, he looked good week 1 but who cares its one game. Mario is a DE and defense wins superbowls we've seen that so why not start the young core of the team with a fast big DE. Makes a lot of sense to me and if they were sold at running back and Kubiak has faith that he can do what he did in Denver again why waste the pick.
     
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    the texans arent winning any superbowls..the texans need to sell tickets and thats what reggie bush would do...texans sell tickets...texans get more money...texans sign players...texans win superbowl, but that all has to start with an exciting player in reggie bush who everyone watched in college not some DE hes not ognna sell tickets..probally not the worst pick of all time but they are trying to go for the ship to quickly
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tim tolan 5)</div><div class='quotemain'>the texans arent winning any superbowls..the texans need to sell tickets and thats what reggie bush would do...texans sell tickets...texans get more money...texans sign players...texans win superbowl, but that all has to start with an exciting player in reggie bush who everyone watched in college not some DE hes not ognna sell tickets..probally not the worst pick of all time but they are trying to go for the ship to quickly</div>
    In a salary cap NFL, selling tickets has nothing to do with the Texans signing more players. So your theory makes no sense whatsoever. Mario Williams could develop into something great.

    This situation reminds me of the Dallas Cowboys passing on Randy Moss a few years ago. The Cowboys desperately needed a WR and Moss fell to them. Every Cowboys fan assumed he was the easy pick and there was definitely some excitement brewing. Then Jerry Jones selects Greg Ellis. Ellis has turned into a guaranteed 8 sack a year performer. Definitely a solid player and most Cowboys fans are now ok with him over Randy Moss because of the drama that Moss has caused his teams.

    Now I'm not calling Bush, Randy Moss by any means. Bush is a good guy and not a distraction. I do think the Texans should've taken Bush, but I can understand why they took Williams. He's a great athlete at the position and the best DE to come out since Julius Peppers. If you remember, it took Peppers some time to develop as well. This is unfair for Williams. This year everyone will be second guessing the Texans and telling them they should've taken Bush and maybe they should've. But give the guy a chance. I think it's a statement by the organization that they are dedicated to improving their team and not to just sell tickets. If they were losing every game this season with Bush, the fans would eventually stop going. This isn't the NBA where great players can carry a bad team. Football is the ultimate team sport. I'm sure the Texans could really use Bush right now because of Davis' injury, but does Bush really fit the zone blocking scheme that the Texans use now anyway? Maybe...he probably could find some success. Selling tickets never helps a team win a Super Bowl in this day and age. Besides, if selling tickets did help a team get players then hometown hero Vince Young would've been the pick. I admire the Texans looking past the bottom line. They had a very good draft overall and I believe that Wali Lundy could have success similar to what Tatum Bell had in Denver last year.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pack Attack)</div><div class='quotemain'>People are bagging on the Williams pick, but give the guy a chance to develop. He's got one NFL start and he's still learning.

    The only reason people are still harping on this is because of Domanick Davis's unfortunate injury. The Texans made what they felt was the right decision for them based on personnel AT THE TIME. If they could see into the future, they obviously would have done it differently.

    All this in addition to the fact that Bush was being a punk at the time talking about "record money." The Texans probably didn't want the hassle.</div>
    How can you be so sure they would have selected Bush had they known DD wasn't going to be available? I think your last statement is more accurate in terms of why they passed on Bush. They made it clear they wanted whomever they drafted to be signed prior to the draft. That was the biggest sticking point for Houston regardless of need.

    On the otherhand 1 player can bring excitement to a city for only so long. If you don't win on the field you'll be losing in the box offices as well. However I'm a believer in Bush's talent & I think he gives you the best chance to win. He was the obvious choice for #1, but the Texans were more concerned about avoiding a long holdout situation then they were strengthening the team. I think they were also scared off by the housing scandal that had surfaced just a week prior to the draft.
     
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    Bush would have been tough to re-sign.I think the Texans would have been better suited to trade the pick for another top 1st rounder,a future 1st, and a solid vet...
     

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