What the Warriors Did right

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  1. Master Shake

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    I think we should stop talking about what the mavs did wrong and what the warriors did right. They isolated dirks weak 1-on-1 defence and Nellie completley out coached avery. He messed with his head in the first game and that completely screwed the mavs over. They couldnt keep up, and the warriors took advantage. So intead of saying trade everyone on dallas, think for a minute, Golden State had the match-up I gurantee they wanted this match-up cause the playoffs are all about match-ups. So they had the mavs number, and they took advantage.. The mavs arnt a bad team, golden state is a team playign hard fast well coached ball, that took advantage of a slower, confused mavs team that just couldnt keep up.
     
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    Avery isn't as good a coach as people make him out to be. Dallas is one of the deepest teams in the NBA. They have 7 guys on that team that could start on most other teams. (Terry, Harris, Stackhouse, Dampier, Diop, Dirk, Josh Howard). The Mavs DID do a lot wrong. First and foremost, they didn't come prepared, which is ALL Avery's fault. They were confused for 48 minutes every game. They were lucky they didn't get swept. If two players didn't get T'd up in Game 2 and if Baron Davis didn't foul out in Game 6, they might have swept the Mavs. The Warriors most important weapon was the element of surprise. Other teams have been able to scout them by now. If they make it past this round, San Antonio will wipe the floor with them, by far one of the 3 smartest teams in the NBA. (Detroit and Utah being the other two IMO).
     
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    The question is what the hell didn't the Warriors do right? The Warriors did almost everything right except for 2 of their best players getting ejected in one of the games. The series should have been a sweep, with Baron Davis at the helm. Playa better calm his ass if he want's to advance further.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Clear It Out Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Avery isn't as good a coach as people make him out to be. Dallas is one of the deepest teams in the NBA. They have 7 guys on that team that could start on most other teams. (Terry, Harris, Stackhouse, Dampier, Diop, Dirk, Josh Howard). The Mavs DID do a lot wrong. First and foremost, they didn't come prepared, which is ALL Avery's fault. They were confused for 48 minutes every game. They were lucky they didn't get swept. If two players didn't get T'd up in Game 2 and if Baron Davis didn't foul out in Game 6, they might have swept the Mavs. The Warriors most important weapon was the element of surprise. Other teams have been able to scout them by now. If they make it past this round, San Antonio will wipe the floor with them, by far one of the 3 smartest teams in the NBA. (Detroit and Utah being the other two IMO).</div>
    I disagree. Avery is a great coach. But Baron Davis is simply a bad match up for teams. So is Al Harrington, Stephen Jackson & Jason Richardson. Those guys are QUICK as hell. I don't think any team can matchup with Golden State outside of maybe Phoenix, and I don't think they can even matchup with Golden State (especially when their hitting 3's)
     
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    Utah's matching up just fine with Golden State. It's all about preparing your team. Avery didn't do that. Utah is one of the smartest teams in the league with one of the best coaches in the league. This was inevitable.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Clear It Out Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Utah's matching up just fine with Golden State. It's all about preparing your team. Avery didn't do that. Utah is one of the smartest teams in the league with one of the best coaches in the league. This was inevitable.</div>

    Actually, if it wasn't for a few fourth quarter mistakes the Warriors could easily be up 3-1 in this series instead of down 3-1. I wouldn't give the Jazz as much credit as your giving them. They just got a few lucky bounces.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Blur Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Actually, if it wasn't for a few fourth quarter mistakes the Warriors could easily be up 3-1 in this series instead of down 3-1. I wouldn't give the Jazz as much credit as your giving them. They just got a few lucky bounces.</div>
    Utah wasn't demolished like Dallas. I'm not giving Utah any credit that they don't deserve. They play smart. They prepare. And when it comes to 4th quarters, they execute well. You don't score 40 points in a quarter if you can't execute well. GS's type of run-and-gun game will only work on teams that are just inferior or haven't prepared. Utah obviously has.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Clear It Out Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Utah wasn't demolished like Dallas. I'm not giving Utah any credit that they don't deserve. They play smart. They prepare. And when it comes to 4th quarters, they execute well. You don't score 40 points in a quarter if you can't execute well. GS's type of run-and-gun game will only work on teams that are just inferior or haven't prepared. Utah obviously has.</div>

    So your saying perperation is the only key. How about Boozer being unstoppable becuase GS dosnt have a body for him. Im a GS fan, i just dunt like Utahs style. Jerry Sloan is a great coach, but they prepare, is not a reason.

    Utah u can say is lucky. GS runs up and down the floor shooting 3's, i love watching it, but what I think is GS plays a russian roulet type of game. Is they run up and hit the threes the bullet isnt in tht barrell. If they miss and the turonvers kill them, well someone better clean up the blood. the mavs arnt an inferior team, they just couldnt keep up and GS was playing great ball.

    And GS hasnt stepped it up on their home floor. So dunt count them out becuase u think utah prepared, becuase as much as they prepare, i think GS in seven.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Ford_11 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I think we should stop talking about what the mavs did wrong and what the warriors did right. They isolated dirks weak 1-on-1 defence and Nellie completley out coached avery. He messed with his head in the first game and that completely screwed the mavs over. They couldnt keep up, and the warriors took advantage. So intead of saying trade everyone on dallas, think for a minute, Golden State had the match-up I gurantee they wanted this match-up cause the playoffs are all about match-ups. So they had the mavs number, and they took advantage.. The mavs arnt a bad team, golden state is a team playign hard fast well coached ball, that took advantage of a slower, confused mavs team that just couldnt keep up.</div>Well said. The Mavs are definately a better team than the warriors but the Warriors owned some individual matchups and took full advantage of them. There is no other team the Warriors would have rather of played in the first round.

    And Avery is still a good coach, will probably be a great coach by the time it is all said and done. Nellie simply out coached him in that series.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Rudeezy Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Well said. The Mavs are definately a better team than the warriors but the Warriors owned some individual matchups and took full advantage of them. There is no other team the Warriors would have rather of played in the first round.

    And Avery is still a good coach, will probably be a great coach by the time it is all said and done. Nellie simply out coached him in that series.</div>

    Exactly, Some one understands...lol
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Ford_11 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">but what I think is GS plays a russian roulet type of game. </div>
    I've been searching for something to describe them, I think that's the best phrase I've come across so far.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Ford_11 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">So your saying perperation is the only key. How about Boozer being unstoppable becuase GS dosnt have a body for him. Im a GS fan, i just dunt like Utahs style. Jerry Sloan is a great coach, but they prepare, is not a reason.

    Utah u can say is lucky. GS runs up and down the floor shooting 3's, i love watching it, but what I think is GS plays a russian roulet type of game. Is they run up and hit the threes the bullet isnt in tht barrell. If they miss and the turonvers kill them, well someone better clean up the blood. the mavs arnt an inferior team, they just couldnt keep up and GS was playing great ball.

    And GS hasnt stepped it up on their home floor. So dunt count them out becuase u think utah prepared, becuase as much as they prepare, i think GS in seven.</div>
    I don't think you watched the games very well. Utah is a disciplined team. They execute at the end of games. They didn't get caught up in an exchange of quick jumpshots with the Warriors like Dallas did. It's not saying that Utah has more talent or is a better team. They just have far better coaching than Dallas. Like Coach Nelson said, the Warriors will only play one way. If it doesn't work, oh well. They will not change their style. And he didn't lie. Utah probably studied film and prepared a way to compete. The Dallas coaching staff is just stupid. Not to mention Dirk choked...again, as usual. Nothing new.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">yudalicious Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I've been searching for something to describe them, I think that's the best phrase I've come across so far.</div>

    it's what killed them against utah. but its fun when they win, and horrible when they lose.
     

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