<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">14 pts for Fisher in the 4th quarter alone to close out the game. Wow, what a liability he is.</div> Gotta hand it to him. He stepped up tonight. He was clutch. His play at the start of the fourth set the tempo for the rest of the quarter. Warriors should have taken advantage with both Boozer and Williams on the bench. Anyway the Jazz trade Millsap to the Warriors in the offseason?
Well even though it was kind of bad sportsmanship I dont think Okur should of gone for that dunk even though they have already sealed the deal. Even Doug Collins said she shouldn't have done that. That showed Okur wanted to make a statement or something and Jrich didn't want him to do that. Overall bad play on both ways but its really hard to keep ur agression bottled up when it was a frustrating game. Sometimes i wonder how NBA players can still play their heart out when they are obviously not getting calls or doing anything right.
I would have been sad if they lost to Dallas. the reason warriors did not make playoffs in the last couple of years is b/c of injuries. this year they had the same, but still came through at the end when everyone was healthy..
Well, against the Jazz we're not the better team. But that doesn't mean we can't win games. I say we gotta just look at winning the next game. It's a must win situation. I'm not saying we'll win three-in-a-row. Just saying we gotta win the next game and bring the series back to Oaktown. If we can do that, then we still have a shot . As for thugball, with the plays by BD and JRich near the end of game, it just goes to show we don't need Ron Artest. Definitely he won't help improve the team.
Maybe I should re-watch the JRich foul, but I just thought it was a hard foul and possibly a little overdone. I didn't think it was horrible. It was a hard foul and had a big fall which happens when you are Okur's size. I agree that Baron's move was stupid. I think Stephen Jackson or maybe it was Pietrus actually (I don't think it was Jackson) had a harsher flagarent foul when he actually went at the Jazz player's head. I don't have a problem with JRich being aggressive and not letting the opponent get an easy dunk late in the game. I don't know, was his foul extremely intentional, or am I playing it too easy for JRich? I am still worried about Baron Davis being able to play in game 5 though.
J-Rich needs to stop taking threes. Anyone notice that in almost all the games almost half his shot attempts are 3-pointers? He needs to stop relying on that and drive to the hoop.
<div class="quote_poster">iLL PiLL Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">J-Rich needs to stop taking threes. Anyone notice that in almost all the games almost half his shot attempts are 3-pointers? He needs to stop relying on that and drive to the hoop.</div> What, so he can turn the ball over to the Jazz by throwing it off his foot? Just kidding. And Rudeezy is right, the Warriors weren't playing good ball tonight. They just got lazy and careless moving the ball around, taking the high % shots, and especially the high % shots that should come from the foul line. It was a disgrace. Then again, I'm not sure why I'm so mad because the Warriors weren't supposed to make it this far. But... the dubs shot themselves in the foot again. They keep doing that and that's a disgrace. Nevermind the refs and their lopsided calls, the Warriors as a team can't be shooting this low at the foul line. Stevie Wonder could make a higher % just by drop kicking the ball in the hoop. Jrich and Ellis in the regular season is awesome, but in the playoffs both have me upset. Harrington I'm usually upset about anyway. Pietrus I'm more pissed off at. Biedrins is doing all he can do, but the kid is so weak for a center. He gets trounced by a 6'8, 270 lber.
<div class="quote_poster">Gohn Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Okay, okay, I'm rooting for the Hawks now...to get the number one pick so they can get Oden!</div> Gohn, if you're doing a reverse jinx, then you don't want to root for the Hawks to get the number one pick and get Oden. That means ATL won't end up in the top 3 and their high pick will go to the Phoenix Suns. That would be bad for the Warriors next season and beyond .
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Gohn, if you're doing a reverse jinx, then you don't want to root for the Hawks to get the number one pick and get Oden. That means ATL won't end up in the top 3 and their high pick will go to the Phoenix Suns. That would be bad for the Warriors next season and beyond</div> Oh crap. Totally forgot about that. Go Warriors!
<div class="quote_poster">Marbire Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">14 pts for Fisher in the 4th quarter alone to close out the game. Wow, what a liability he is. And poor sportsmanship from Jrich and Davis at the end. I still love Davis though.</div> You're kidding right? Baron walked into Fisher, Fisher flopped and didn't get a call so he pretended to be injured, Devin Harris-style. Okur is an idiot for trying to go in and dunk it, did he honestly think they would let him embarrass GS on their home floor? This isn't Turkey, the is the NBA, in the playoffs. He's lucky J-Rich actually made a play on the ball instead of just going up and nailing him in the face or clotheslining him in mid air. The last thing J-Rich would let another player do is sh*t on GS fans, JR is nothing but a class act and he did go for the ball on that play (though he made sure it was also a very hard foul). Even Collins said that was dumb of Okur to try that on national television. Warriors played like crap tonight thats all there is to it. They look tired and beat up and lazy. Hopefully we still win another game or two because this series has been a lot closer than the 3-1 Jazz advantage that everyone sees now.
<div class="quote_poster">Run BJM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You're kidding right? Baron walked into Fisher, Fisher flopped and didn't get a call so he pretended to be injured, Devin Harris-style. Okur is an idiot for trying to go in and dunk it, did he honestly think they would let him embarrass GS on their home floor? This isn't Turkey, the is the NBA, in the playoffs. He's lucky J-Rich actually made a play on the ball instead of just going up and nailing him in the face or clotheslining him in mid air. The last thing J-Rich would let another player do is sh*t on GS fans, JR is nothing but a class act and he did go for the ball on that play (though he made sure it was also a very hard foul). Even Collins said that was dumb of Okur to try that on national television. Warriors played like crap tonight thats all there is to it. They look tired and beat up and lazy. Hopefully we still win another game or two because this series has been a lot closer than the 3-1 Jazz advantage that everyone sees now.</div> Very well said.
<div class="quote_poster">Run BJM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You're kidding right? Baron walked into Fisher, Fisher flopped and didn't get a call so he pretended to be injured, Devin Harris-style. Okur is an idiot for trying to go in and dunk it, did he honestly think they would let him embarrass GS on their home floor? This isn't Turkey, the is the NBA, in the playoffs. He's lucky J-Rich actually made a play on the ball instead of just going up and nailing him in the face or clotheslining him in mid air. The last thing J-Rich would let another player do is sh*t on GS fans, JR is nothing but a class act and he did go for the ball on that play (though he made sure it was also a very hard foul). Even Collins said that was dumb of Okur to try that on national television. Warriors played like crap tonight thats all there is to it. They look tired and beat up and lazy. Hopefully we still win another game or two because this series has been a lot closer than the 3-1 Jazz advantage that everyone sees now.</div> 2 points on this 1. BAron walked into Fisher and connected on the right side of the head but when chicken s-hit talentless bad actor fell to the ground he held the left side of his head. Maybe he hit the floor on the left side with his flop? Maybe he should get the same thing they do iin the NHL and T up the flopper. 2. The same possession that J-rich fouled Okur hard Collins points out that the WArriors are trying to foul and the refs are'nt calling it. My guess J-rich saw that and that added to his frustration.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">2 points on this 1. BAron walked into Fisher and connected on the right side of the head but when chicken s-hit talentless bad actor fell to the ground he held the left side of his head. Maybe he hit the floor on the left side with his flop? Maybe he should get the same thing they do iin the NHL and T up the flopper.</div> Baron purposely didn't move for Fisher, was it dirty, no. Was it a bit rough, yes, it's playoff basketball. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> 2. The same possession that J-rich fouled Okur hard Collins points out that the WArriors are trying to foul and the refs are'nt calling it. My guess J-rich saw that and that added to his frustration.</div> I disagree. The Warriors have been playing soft all series. JRich sent a message to his team and the Jazz that he won't tolerate any of that BS stuff anymore. If you're gonna bring it at the hoop, bring it, but you're gonna take a licking. Baron almost had his head taken off earlier in the series. It's part of the game. Time for the rest of the team to quit pouting and grow a pair. I loved the foul. Okur followed that play with another show-up play when he shot a 3 at the end of the game. If the team were a bunch of thugs, they would've gone after him there too. I see them using it as motivation at this point.
Tough loss for the Warriors, they'll have to win two on the road to advance, and so far they've been lousy away from the Oracle with a 1-4 record. How can anyone complain about JRich hard foul? Okur knows damn well he's going to get hit trying to dunk the ball, on the road, when the outcome of the game is already over in your favor. Reading JRich lips he kept saying, "Don't by a *****, don't be a *****." He must have said those 4 words at least 8 times. It's going to be interesting to see how the Warriors play in desperation. They closed the regular season having to win every single game, so they need to draw from that and approach this series one game at a time and get overwhelmed by being down 1-3. Warriors have to come out loose like they did in Game 3.
Warriors played a disappointing game at the worst available time. Bad turnovers, bad FT shooting, bad ball movement. Fisher was the MVP for the Jazz last night. He hit huge shots that I personally wanted him to take after watching him the last couple of years. I think the Warriors are still not out of it. Its a huge hole but the Jazz are not that great. I just wish the Warriors would not foul so much and make the Jazz hit some shots. I guess that's where they get their steals though. SJax, you need to give it up a little faster and JRich, needs to attack the basket without spinning (instant TO).
Jazz had a great 4th quater, still glad we got rid of his ass. He still thinks he is Michael Jordan at times.
<div class="quote_poster">Rudeezy Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Jazz had a great 4th quater, still glad we got rid of his ass. He still thinks he is Michael Jordan at times.</div> No doubt -- I admire how Fisher is dealing with his family issues -- but damn dude that guy absolutely LOST several games single-handedly for GS with his refusal to admit he is not the GOAT. Typical Fisher possession when he was with GS: Dribble dribble dribble dribble -- crossover -- hold up a finger to call a play -- dribble dribble dribble -- cross over -- fake-drive -- back it out -- dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble -- wave Foyle to clear out of the key -- dribble dribble dribble -- cross over -- behind the back -- dribble dribble dribble -- point at Dunleavy to come set a screen -- dribble dribble dribble -- don't use the screen -- dribble dribble dribble -- cross over -- jab step -- behind the back -- cross over -- through the legs -- behind the back -- fade away three from half court to beat the shot clock. Barely catches the side of the back board. Ugly brick leads to a fast break -- Fish tries to take charge at half court -- point guard goes right around Fish for uncontested lay-up on the other end. Fish wears stoic facial expression of "veteran" determination. Refuses to give up. Repeats process ad nauseum.
^^^Exactly. It seemed like SJAX kind of had this mind set in game 4. He dribbled WAY too much, tried to split double teams, made tough passes which became turnovers....overall just made bad decisions. I did like the fact that he was aggressive at trying to draw fouls but I just think he had the Fisher-syndrome in game 4.
<div class="quote_poster">Rudeezy Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">^^^Exactly. It seemed like SJAX kind of had this mind set in game 4. He dribbled WAY too much, tried to split double teams, made tough passes which became turnovers....overall just made bad decisions. I did like the fact that he was aggressive at trying to draw fouls but I just think he had the Fisher-syndrome in game 4.</div> I agree -- the only difference I'd note is that Fisher pounded it looking for his outside shot, while SJax -- even though he likes to jack threes -- did the pounding looking to find a way to the rack. Last night I think he was pissed at how he had been played/treated/called all series, and I think he was determined to dunk on someone even if he had to suffer a broken nose for it. While I love the determination, I think he took away from himself his best weapon -- the PASS!!! Jax is actually one of the best passers on the team, IMO, ESPECIALLY on the pick n' roll with Beans. He can thread it through three guys for an easy dunk for Beans. But last night, he seemed he didn't use his periferal vision -- it looked like he had his head down going hard, and it seemed like the defenders stopped honoring his pass and started trapping him more often. Which of course only made him try that much harder to will his way THROUGH the opposition. At one point, though, Harrington was in the corner, drove baseline and dished to Jack in the paint, who quickly laid down a sweet bounce pass for an easy dunk for Beans. I leapt out of my chair because I had been waiting to see that from him all night! It was money. I hope in game 5 he gets back to being that deadly distributor he's been ALL year.
