Warriors 2007 NBA Draft Thread

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  1. .cabangbang

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    Although I don't want more Dookie (Duke) players, I'd be happy with McRoberts. Put him in Nellie's training camp, or at least a conditioning program, get him back to his original shape, and we have a legit rebounder who can run the floor, shoot, and pass the ball next to Biedrins. I'd be happy with him at 18. If he doesn't last to 18, Dominic McGuire is the best choice. If he doesn't contribute on offense, he should be able to replace Barnes rebounding (9 rebounds a game in NCAA) and his defense (3 blocks)
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Clif25 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You may be correct about the Warriors going after a big. I am still in the minority by mostly holding my breath on Patrick O'Bryant and even over the possibility of Kosta Perovic from last year's draft. The Warriors will still have Foyle and even possibly Powell if they elect to re-sign him. Also with Don Nelson as head coach you can't just add any big and still remain certain that Nelson will decide to play him. Fortunately there seems to be many bigs in the draft with some that may still be available when the Warriors draft. I haven't been studying this draft but perhaps Splitter is a big Nelson would want?

    You are right about Monta Ellis being able to play PG and needing to be the successor to Baron Davis. One of the reasons why Monta Ellis needs to become a solid PG is because he may be too small to be his most productive as a 2; his physical features are more suited for a PG. It is uncertain right now if Monta Ellis can give Baron Davis the needed rest he usually needs throughout the season. I have little doubt that Monta Ellis will work very hard and improve as a PG and player this offseason. A PG (who can play of course) can be a type of insurance player to give Don Nelson and Baron Davis some relief. Also if Baron or Monta goes down with injury (both are a bit injury prone) another PG may be needed.</div>

    ok, one by one.

    POB - hard to see him going from a d-league guy to a legit contributor next year unless somebody lights fire under his a$$...but he allegedly has some game, so we'll see.

    Perovic - originally i was thinking eurostiff, but he did show well late in the season, so we'll see.

    Foyle - doesn't count. he's not going to sniff any more playing time than he did this season. great guy, could contribute a bit in the right system, but not here.

    Powell - i honestly didn't see much to be impressed about, and by the little PT he got, neither did Nels

    Ellis - Agree completely that he needs to be a PG to really make it big in the league. He's too short and slight of frame to make it as an SG, and let's face it, he's a nice scorer but not a scoring machine like iverson. So picking up another pg through FA or trade makes alot of sense. As i said in another thread, I thought Cabbage would be a nice backup, but it just didn't happen.

    Splitter - I'd be ok with drafting him, though i prefer Jason Smith. Either of them can run the floor and finish.

    All this said, i have to say the idea of trading jrich to move up and pick Yi Jianlan is really compelling. I love jrich, but even as the season went on and he regained his strength, he was relegated to spot-up shooter. He was truly the odd man out on offense. Yes, he had some highlight moments, but he just wasn't fitting in. So let's say we do make the trade to Boston for Ratliff's expiring deal and their high pick. First thing we get is some of the cap relief to extend Beans (most important in my book by a mile) and Monta. And then our starting lineup looks like

    PG Baron
    SG Jax
    SF Harrington
    PF Yi
    C Beans

    Forget about "small ball"!!! This is a tall, highly athletic lineup! Average to above-average height at every position with athleticism. Yes, the bench is still undersized and we need more frontline depth, but it sure starts looking more like the Suns, eh?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">
    PG Baron
    SG Jax
    SF Harrington
    PF Yi
    C Beans

    Forget about "small ball"!!! This is a tall, highly athletic lineup! Average to above-average height at every position with athleticism. Yes, the bench is still undersized and we need more frontline depth, but it sure starts looking more like the Suns, eh?</div>

    I have a question for you. When was the last time an international player came in deserving of a starting job in his rookie year?
     
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    As far as Monta Ellis (I am changing my previous tone about him): I am hoping that he can start to develop like Tony Parker. He doesn't need to be Jason Kidd in distributing, but if he can limit his turnovers and attack the rim like Tony Parker and finish like Tony Parker, then Monta Ellis should then become a more solid PG. He has the ability to do this. If he decides to become like Tony Parker rather than Baron Davis-like then I think he'll become a better PG and player.

    As far as POB, I see a 7 footer with very good athleticism, long, towering, good mobility, long arms, and a decent touch. He can block shots and supposedly has a good touch to score around the basket. I really don't see how he can be worse than a Chris Mihm or any other mid-tier center. But then when you see his mental attributes I guess that is where the synicism comes. He just seems unmotivated, on and off the court. I suppose when you add those two views of POB the picture may get a bit confusing. I guess this summer competition can be a decent scale to see where he is at. I think he can definitley contribute something to this team.

    If the Warriors get Yi, Don Nelson may elect to take out Biedrins and add Monta Ellis to the starting lineup. Harrington did fine as the center late in the regular season, and Yi is definitley tall enough to do more help on the boards.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">ok, one by one.

    Powell - i honestly didn't see much to be impressed about, and by the little PT he got, neither did Nels

    Splitter - I'd be ok with drafting him, though i prefer Jason Smith. Either of them can run the floor and finish.</div>

    I personally loved what I saw from Powell. He may be undersized, much like Ike, but he has natural quickness, he seemed pretty strong going for rebounds, he could block shots and he provided huge energy on the floor. His offensive game is limited to midrange J's, but he can develop into a Udonis Haslem type if given playing time. I think he has more potential than Ike right now.

    I don't understand why you would rather have Smith than Splitter. Splitter is one of the better defenders in the draft and is very similar to Biedrins in the defensive and rebounding aspects. Why not have a Biedrins with a jumper and passing abilities play next to the real Biedrins who can score inside? The more I read about Smith, the more he sounds like Murphy. DX says that he is a bad positioned rebounder, that on defense and rebounding he gets easily outmuscled and will often give up.
     
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    Me, I'd be happy with any of these players at 18;

    Splitter
    McRoberts
    Dominic McGuire
    Thaddeus Young
    Rodney Stuckey
    Al Thornton
    Nick Young
    Javaris Crittenton

    Chances are, Splitter and McRoberts may be gone, if they aren't, I'd rather have Splitter. Nick Young and Thornton will most likely be gone, but players fall all the time in the draft. Outside of those four, I'd love to get Dominic McGuire. His length, athleticisim, his speed, and his rebounding abilities would be great as a Warrior. Crittenton and Stuckey will move up or down through this draft process, so I'd be content getting either one if it's at a good position.
     
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    If Dominic McGuire or Derrick Bryars aren't taken by 36, this is my second round wish list (both picks)

    Dominic McGuire
    Derrick Bryars
    Reyshawn Terry
    Major Wingate
    Herbert Hill
    Jamearo Davidson
    Nick Fakezas
    Glen Davis (He's quick for someone his size and he could put bodies on the guys that give us trouble.

    McGuire and Hill would be my prefered picks, but if not them, I'd go for Terry and Davidson. Talking to Voodo Child, he told me that Davison had a bad season due to losses in his family, and that it might make his stock drop. I'd be happy to take him him if he can contribute.

    DraftExpress Warriors Workout Schedule
    Player Team Workout Date Status Source
    DeVon Hardin Warriors Jun 17th Upcoming
    Jason Smith Warriors Jun 17th Upcoming
    Kyrylo Fesenko Warriors Jun 19th Upcoming
    Alan Wiggins Jr Warriors Jun 19th Upcoming
    Justin Doellman Warriors Jun 19th Upcoming
    Brent Petway Warriors Jun 19th Upcoming
    Kyle Visser Warriors Jun 19th Upcoming
    Nick Young Warriors Jun 20th Upcoming
    Nick Fazekas Warriors Jun 20th Upcoming
    Demetris Nichols Warriors Jun 20th Upcoming
    Dominic McGuire Warriors Jun 20th Upcoming
    Josh McRoberts Warriors Jun 21st Upcoming
    Major Wingate Warriors Jun 21st Upcoming
    Ron Lewis Warriors Jun 22nd Upcoming
    D.J. Strawberry Warriors Jun 11th Completed
    Jarrius Jackson Warriors Jun 11th Completed
    Morris Almond Warriors Jun 11th Completed
    Dan Nwaelele Warriors Jun 11th Completed
    Mohamed Abukar Warriors Jun 11th Completed
    Lee Humphrey Warriors Jun 13th Completed
    Aaron Brooks Warriors Jun 13th Completed
    Brandon Heath Warriors Jun 13th Completed
    J.R. Reynolds Warriors Jun 13th Completed
    Adam Haluska Warriors Jun 14th Completed
    Reyshawn Terry Warriors Jun 14th Completed
    Alando Tucker Warriors Jun 14th Completed
    Caleb Green Warriors Jun 14th Completed
    Mike Jones Warriors Jun 15th Completed
    David Teague Warriors Jun 15th Completed
    Craig Bradshaw Warriors Jun 15th Completed
    Anthony Tolliver Warriors Jun 15th Completed

    I'm dissapointed to not see Herbert Hill or Derrick Bryars, but looks like Nelson and the crew are looking at good players.
     
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    Trades seem unlikely because of the high demand for these guys and in my opinion, talent drop off after the top 10th pick. In a sense, I feel that we're going to get much better value out of our 2nd round guys than our 1st rounders because we can take more risks.

    While I totally agree with the concensus that the missing piece is a big man, none of the big men that are being discussed as first round picks impress me. McRoberts and Splitter are both solid players, but both players lack a certain mental toughness that resulted in disappointing progress (relative to others' and my expectations, of course). Of the two, I would take Splitter because he's proved himself in a professional setting, but his offense still leaves something to be desired, but I believe there's still a buyout issue. I've been impressed by the two shooters, Nick Young and Morris Almond, or Al Thornton if he slips that low. But one of the common aspects of all these players is that they're all a bit suspect on defense, but I'm not impressed by any of the other guys that are labeled big potential either. I certainly haven't made up my mind this early, though.
     
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    Most of the guys that we're working out are in the 6'5" to 6'8" range... Pietrus' replacement?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">CohanHater Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Most of the guys that we're working out are in the 6'5" to 6'8" range... Pietrus' replacement?</div>

    My guess would be a Barnes replacement. This is a quote from Preetom Bhatacharya of Basketball News Services regarding Chris Mullin;

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">An interesting thing that a Warriors suit told me earlier this year is that Mullin has learned to evaluate based on skills rather than physical metrics. He isn't enamored with how tall someone is or how long their arms are anymore - much like he was as a player, he focuses on results.

    This came up in a conversation we were having about Jason Richardson and how he always works on something over the offseason and is like a sponge with instruction. The exec was telling me how Jason will watch tapes and work with specific coaches to build up a particular skill. This summer, he's working on passing and mid-range jumpshots, for example.

    Obviously, the chief skill the team needs is rebounding and I think the fact that they're willing to take an undersized guy if he has shown the skill they want (read: Paul Millsap), they'll try to get him.</div>

    I'd be totally happy with another Barnes type player who can rebound and bring energy, or a short rebounder ala Milsap. I was disappointed to not see Tiago Splitter on our workouts list, but I'm hoping that's from his buyout problems.
    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">
    Cal coach Ben Braun hopes to hear from Hardin over the weekend about his decision, but Hardin is certainly acting as if he's staying in the draft. And he may have a good case.

    There is definite interest from New Jersey at No. 17 and Golden State at No. 18. If either team can assure Hardin that he's not going below them, he may stay in the draft. Hardin's original goal was top-20, and he may just have that within his reach at this point. Hardin was limited last season with injuries but has always been an NBA talent.
    </div>

    I'd be happy with Hardin if Nelson and them see a good pick in him. I still prefer Splitter and McRoberts, but if Hardin can return to his old self, it'd be great to have another rebounder/shotblocker.
     
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    The Warriors glaring lack was Rebounding...Rebounding...and rebounding.
    Next...scoring inside and a bit of polished PG depth,maybe a shooter/scorer if it's a bargain (Almond?)

    This draft is pretty flaky from 3 to 20 with a lot of guys mocked based not on what they ARE but on a mix of unpolished tools and optimistic imagination.

    Note down the STATS the real facts of last season for Herbert Hill,Nick Fazekas,Brandan wright,Tiago Splitter,McRoberts.

    Want rebounds.....take a look...Fazekas 11+....Splitter 5 1/2. Scoring? Hill was around 19 per and 64%....McRoberts was a tad above 12 a game---not in the NCAA top 200 scorers....also fewer rbd than Hill...and Hill was pretty high in shotblocks---about even with G Oden in fact.

    Want scoring? Where was Wright..around 15 a game? Fazekas scored 22,hit 84% FT and shoots well from 3. At 240 Fazekas can survive in NBA crowds...at 205 Wright is a stretched SG. The truth is that Hill and Fazekas ARE as good as some of the top 15 guys MIGHT become.

    Nice bargains.

    Jason Smith I saw less-but he tested well...and very relevant-was over 10 boards.

    Stephane Lasme is on my want list for rd 2. Not a big PF but had a STUNNING 4 triple doubles of 10+ shotblocks. Hard worker,9+ rbd,5 blocks a game,can run well.

    Dominic McGuire is a SF who had 2 triple doubles-one with 10 assists and one with 10 blocks....that is RARE. Athletic but not a pure shooter-is a VERY good rebounder/defender and a real good passer. Kind of like getting Julian Wright 15 slots cheaper.

    The IDEAL GSW plan-trade down from 18,getting 2 late rd 1's (Suns? Sixers?)

    Draft targets......Herbert Hill,Nick Fazekas,Dominic McGuire,Jared Dudley,Stephane Lasme,Aaron Brooks,Zabian Dowdell....Jason Smith -if available. If we get 4 off that short list...we are doing quite well.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Air Monta Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Me, I'd be happy with any of these players at 18;

    Splitter
    McRoberts
    Dominic McGuire
    Thaddeus Young
    Rodney Stuckey
    Al Thornton
    Nick Young
    Javaris Crittenton

    Chances are, Splitter and McRoberts may be gone, if they aren't, I'd rather have Splitter. Nick Young and Thornton will most likely be gone, but players fall all the time in the draft. Outside of those four, I'd love to get Dominic McGuire. His length, athleticisim, his speed, and his rebounding abilities would be great as a Warrior. Crittenton and Stuckey will move up or down through this draft process, so I'd be content getting either one if it's at a good position.</div>

    When I saw Ga Tech I really was not at all impressed with Young or Crittendon. Both looked very underskilled. Each showed off athletic abilities....about once...while in general va Tech G's Dowdell and Gordon schooled them and shredded Ga Tech.

    I Saw Almond play--and he's a tough guy,fights for boards draws fouls,makes the FT (85%) shoots a lot-yet scores vs double teams,scores with contact and hit over 45% from 3....the best % in rd 1. Funny....someone might take Thad Young higher .... and will look pretty dumb later on.

    Stuckey is either a big PG who scores-or a SG with real good handles. He may need a few weeks to adapt to the higher grade D in the pros-but the guy has a toolbox and knows how to use what's in it. The deal- however-is that the HUGE need is to NOT be outrebounded by 20 anymore.

    Splitter can be a fairly decent backup C,Jeff Foster with fewer rbd. He FINALLY cracked the regular lineup in Euroball....still finished under 6 boards per---hardly dazzling since Morris Almond averaged 6 boards as a SF and Fazekas had 11 and might even last till high rd 2 (I doubt the mocks on that)

    Thornton +N. Young are good scoring wings. Both figure as above #18,and we GOT wings. These guys are not ahead of Barnes-Pietrus-Azubike,as-is. Thornton -I think-may get better,might be the Josh Howard (well...almost) in this draft,but it can be awhile before he's playing enough to reach his peak.
    I see Thornton as about #9,and we likely won't trade up for a SF.

    The McRoberts that was a skinny HS star is not the same as the bloated looking,slower version on the floor this year. He has the skill set to be a decent backup PF...a poor man's Troy Murphy,less effective on the boards...less accurate from 3...but less $. If that's your aim point--Fazekas is far better in pretty much anything but passing,and 1 1/2 more assists does not even it out.
     
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    Somebody knows their college ball. I think Mully should hire you as a scout, REREM. You make some great points about stats versus mock rankings. I'm thinking back to Marvin Williams -- he was a reserve, and yet what was he pickd -- #3? -- based on potential. Up till now, he's been good but no franchise changer. I think in part draft guys like Ford have fallen in love with the sexy prospects over the boring, lunchbox-type blue collar college guys. Looking back, Boozer was a no-brainer with stats to back it up -- how did he slip so low? People ignored the stats and winning tradition and looked toward phenomenal prospects who MIGHT emerge as stars.

    I'm officially handing over my draft understanding to you. I don't know the board nearly as well. I do know Yi, more or less, because I've been reading up on him. But you make it sound like we might be just fine sitting back and making a smart pick at #18.

    Either way, we'll need a strong PF one way or another. I think in part this team needs to ride the PO momentum from 2006-2007. Now is not the time to look several years down the road or try to develop a long-term prospect. I know we have young players, but I think we are poised to try to win NOW, and get someone who can contribute year one. Therefore, if we stay at 18, I think we should take a "safe" pick like Fazekas rather than gamble on an unknown "prospect" who may never pan out.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">CohanHater Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I have a question for you. When was the last time an international player came in deserving of a starting job in his rookie year?</div>

    Pau Gasol did it, averaged 17 and 9 in the process.

    However I don't think Yi is as developed as Pau was at that age.
     
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    ReREm

    I noticed Brandon Heath was in for a look last week and i was wondering what you thought of him.

    HE is a leader, a talented combo guard who ran the point for two years. He led the MWC in scoring and was MVP. He came through many times in clutch situations and was nails at the line when it counted. He is similar to tony parker in many ways as he has good ability to finish with penetration. I think if there is any player he reminds me a lot of is nick van exel. He has huge range and he has that rare shot ..... the mid range shot as well as the floater.

    Another factor is he is a smart guy. I believe he got his degree in 3 1/2 years.... and plays the game cerebrally.

    He would be a perfect fit in Nellie's system.

    I think he should be brought in for summer league and targeted for a long look. He could be a nice 2nd round pick or at the very least a camp invitee for a long look.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> Pau Gasol did it, averaged 17 and 9 in the process.</div>

    Fair Enough.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">However I don't think Yi is as developed as Pau was at that age.</div>

    Exactly right, Just look at what he did before the 2001 draft. Remember, FC Barcelona is a solid club in a solid league.


    Juniors
    * Junior World Champion with Spain (1999)
    * Junior European Champion with Spain (1998)

    FC Barcelona

    * ACB League Champion (2001)
    * Spanish Copa del Rey Champion (2001)
    * Most Valuable Player in ACB league (2001)
    * Most Valuable Player in Copa del Rey (2001)


    I'd steer clear of Yi if we want someone to play now. If this draft was 2 years ago, I'd say take a chance on him, this isn't the year to trade away talent to try to get him.
     
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    REREM, I love your mention of Herbert Hill and Lasme. I only got to see them a few times each but I was very impressed by both. Hill is just a damn solid all around big man. He can score well, has some decent post moves, a little bit of a developing mid range game, good touch, athletic, lanky, has a knack for blocking shots, and hes a good rebounder. Hes just a very solid player and I'd love to take him at 36. Lasme is just amazing to watch really. Guy is 6'7 playing PF and one of the best, if not the best shot blocker in the country (Sean Williams included). He has amazing timing, great length and athleticism and hes got all the knowledge and instincts that a Marcus Camby or Tim Duncan does at age 30. Hes probably athletic enough to be a tweener type PF but he has no offensive game outside of dunks and layups. Luckily for us Nellie prefers playing 6'7 tweener forwards who can rebound and defend PFs. I'd love to take him in the second round since he can come in immediately and play some 4/5 and just develop a spot up jumpshot.

    I see those guys as second round picks though. Right now their stock isn't moving a whole lot and they seem to be considered second round picks only. Of course, Mullin should go with the guy he likes at 18, but making a huge reach there is something that could cost him his job down the line. One guy at 18 who I like and I think you'd like is Derrick Byars. Hes a 5th year senior from Vanderbilt and was the Play of the Year in the SEC. Hes one of the most complete players in the draft, he can step right in and contribute because hes a very good defender at 6'7, 220 lbs and has great athleticism and length. His a very polished offensive player as well with a great handle, ability to penetrate, and a good jumpshot out to 3 pt range. Hes just a great all around wing who does what it takes to help his team win, he won't be a star in the NBA but he can be a great role player which would be very useful at 18.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">REREM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The Warriors glaring lack was Rebounding...Rebounding...and rebounding.
    Next...scoring inside and a bit of polished PG depth,maybe a shooter/scorer if it's a bargain (Almond?)

    This draft is pretty flaky from 3 to 20 with a lot of guys mocked based not on what they ARE but on a mix of unpolished tools and optimistic imagination.

    Note down the STATS the real facts of last season for Herbert Hill,Nick Fazekas,Brandan wright,Tiago Splitter,McRoberts.

    Want rebounds.....take a look...Fazekas 11+....Splitter 5 1/2. Scoring? Hill was around 19 per and 64%....McRoberts was a tad above 12 a game---not in the NCAA top 200 scorers....also fewer rbd than Hill...and Hill was pretty high in shotblocks---about even with G Oden in fact.

    Want scoring? Where was Wright..around 15 a game? Fazekas scored 22,hit 84% FT and shoots well from 3. At 240 Fazekas can survive in NBA crowds...at 205 Wright is a stretched SG. The truth is that Hill and Fazekas ARE as good as some of the top 15 guys MIGHT become.

    Nice bargains.

    Jason Smith I saw less-but he tested well...and very relevant-was over 10 boards.

    Stephane Lasme is on my want list for rd 2. Not a big PF but had a STUNNING 4 triple doubles of 10+ shotblocks. Hard worker,9+ rbd,5 blocks a game,can run well.

    Dominic McGuire is a SF who had 2 triple doubles-one with 10 assists and one with 10 blocks....that is RARE. Athletic but not a pure shooter-is a VERY good rebounder/defender and a real good passer. Kind of like getting Julian Wright 15 slots cheaper.

    The IDEAL GSW plan-trade down from 18,getting 2 late rd 1's (Suns? Sixers?)

    Draft targets......Herbert Hill,Nick Fazekas,Dominic McGuire,Jared Dudley,Stephane Lasme,Aaron Brooks,Zabian Dowdell....Jason Smith -if available. If we get 4 off that short list...we are doing quite well.</div>

    The thing you have to remember with Splitter is that the game is slower and therefore; less possesions, less rebound opportunities. It's not so much rebounding ability that impresses me with Splitter as it is his defensive and psychical attributes. Watching vids of Splitter, I see a lot of Biedrins in him. He looks a bit more fluid than Biedrins does, but they are both quick, and very athletic for their size. The one thing that impresses me with Splitter is his willingness to bruise down low. He has strength enough to keep his man from going to the hoop most of the time, and he's very good at staying straight up.

    Jason Smith is slowly growing on me, although I prefer Josh McRoberts. The one thing that worries me with Smith is his rebounding abilities. He seems to have good posts moves, but he is playing against smaller players, and he needs to add strength and needs to learn to box out to be succsessful.

    I'm not as impressed by Fakezas as you are Rem. I can't say I've watched him, but from what I hear, it'd be another Murphy player. Unless he can box out his man well and position himself, I'm not really psyched about hin.
     
  19. Clif25

    Clif25 JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">CohanHater Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Fair Enough.



    Exactly right, Just look at what he did before the 2001 draft. Remember, FC Barcelona is a solid club in a solid league.


    Juniors
    * Junior World Champion with Spain (1999)
    * Junior European Champion with Spain (1998)

    FC Barcelona

    * ACB League Champion (2001)
    * Spanish Copa del Rey Champion (2001)
    * Most Valuable Player in ACB league (2001)
    * Most Valuable Player in Copa del Rey (2001)


    I'd steer clear of Yi if we want someone to play now. If this draft was 2 years ago, I'd say take a chance on him, this isn't the year to trade away talent to try to get him.</div>

    I don't know about Yi. Maybe he could be the next Pau/Dirk or maybe the next Skita. If the team is going to get a PF who is going to contend for a spot on the starting lineup, that player will need to be able to score. I don't think Don Nelson is going to play a PF who is just going to rebound and defend if Andris is going to be the starting center. If Yi is as good of a shooter and scorer as he has skills in the way he has performed in workouts, then perhaps getting Yi isn't as much of a risk.

    This resume of Gasol reminds me of Rudy Fernandez: 2006-07 Euroleague Rising Star, won the 2006 FIBA EuroCup with Joventut Badalona, 2006 Spanish League Player of the Year, 2006 World Champion, 2004 Spanish Olympic Team, 2004 Copa Del Rey MVP named the 2002-03 Spanish Junior league MVP…named the 2004 Spanish Cup Finals MVP…won the bronze medal at the 2001 European Cadets Championship…has been member of the Spanish Junior National Team…played at the 2002 European Junior Championship…member of the Spanish National Team…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCP0XNAXhOw...related&search=

    I would be pleased to see the Warriors get this player at 18. He would go well, I think, backing up the 2/3 with Azubuike, and perhaps either Pietrus or Barnes. If rebounding is a focus this offseason, perhaps this will urge the Warriors to resign Pietrus who I think was the second best rebounder on the team last season.
     
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    .cabangbang BBW Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Clif25 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I don't know about Yi. Maybe he could be the next Pau/Dirk or maybe the next Skita. If the team is going to get a PF who is going to contend for a spot on the starting lineup, that player will need to be able to score. I don't think Don Nelson is going to play a PF who is just going to rebound and defend if Andris is going to be the starting center. If Yi is as good of a shooter and scorer as he has skills in the way he has performed in workouts, then perhaps getting Yi isn't as much of a risk.

    This resume of Gasol reminds me of Rudy Fernandez: 2006-07 Euroleague Rising Star, won the 2006 FIBA EuroCup with Joventut Badalona, 2006 Spanish League Player of the Year, 2006 World Champion, 2004 Spanish Olympic Team, 2004 Copa Del Rey MVP named the 2002-03 Spanish Junior league MVP?named the 2004 Spanish Cup Finals MVP?won the bronze medal at the 2001 European Cadets Championship?has been member of the Spanish Junior National Team?played at the 2002 European Junior Championship?member of the Spanish National Team?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCP0XNAXhOw...related&search=

    I would be pleased to see the Warriors get this player at 18. He would go well, I think, backing up the 2/3 with Azubuike, and perhaps either Pietrus or Barnes. If rebounding is a focus this offseason, perhaps this will urge the Warriors to resign Pietrus who I think was the second best rebounder on the team last season.</div>

    The last thing I want is Pietrus back on the team. Sure he's athletic, sure he has amazing length, quickness, and jumping, but he makes horrible desicions, he still fouls constantly and he is worthless without a good PG. I'd rather keep the cheaper, more fundamentally sound Azubuike.
     

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