Foyle to the Magic

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  1. Clif25

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    <div class="quote_poster">Run BJM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Source

    Tells you about his priorities. If he actually cared about basketball and winning he'd have gone to play with the Celtics, they actually wanted him to help them contend but he'd rather shorten the plane trips to the islands than go compete for a championship. Hes never really had a passion for basketball, hes a great guy in general but as far as basketball he really just shows up, gets his paycheck, and goes home.</div>

    Yeah, I am so happy that Foyle is gone. Foyle did hustle when he got on the court. But he just never prepared himself to be anything special in the NBA. When he got his chances, after Dampier left and when Dampier was injured, Foyle just disappeared and totally flopped. I think Clifford Robinson was center over Foyle. Foyle was a recreational player getting fat pay-checks on an NBA squad. Even out of highschool he decided to go to Colgate instead of Duke. That's the type of mind-set he's had throughout his basketball career. The Foyle pick is so bad, considering we could have had TMac! haha. But yeah I am happy Foyle is gone now.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Master Shake Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">If he gets some time, he can be more effective then Foyle. Garrity will mkae a jumper, when he gets traded to a time who gives him more then 5 seconds a night.</div>

    Who would want him though?? He's so one-dimensional. He's even scared of shooting. He hesitates when he's open. He's lost his touch and doesn't do much else. He also is a defensive liability playing SF/PF.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">CLos Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Who would want him though?? He's so one-dimensional. He's even scared of shooting. He hesitates when he's open. He's lost his touch and doesn't do much else. He also is a defensive liability playing SF/PF.</div>

    I want him because he costs less the Foyle and I could get slme draft picks for him.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Master Shake Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I want him because he costs less the Foyle and I could get slme draft picks for him.</div>

    Actually Garrity's contract now is bigger than Foyle's. Also, what possible draft picks can you get for Garrity?? NBDL ones?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">CLos Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Actually Garrity's contract now is bigger than Foyle's. Also, what possible draft picks can you get for Garrity?? NBDL ones?</div>

    Second round, or late second round.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Master Shake Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Second round, or late second round.</div>

    And you couldn't possibly get a 2nd round pick from trading Foyle?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">CLos Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">And you couldn't possibly get a 2nd round pick from trading Foyle?</div>

    Why would you want to trade Foyle? You've finally landed the solid back-up center mentor Howard. Your roster is now complete. Foyle is the missing piece of the puzzle, a true defensive stopper who will lock-down Shaq on the block and do the little "Mutumbo finger-wag" to boot. [​IMG] [​IMG]

    He better just hope he doesn't have to go up against Pat Garrity in practice, because Foyle will get physically dominated and abused on the block like a little school-girl by the man-child that is Pat "the-beast-from-the-east" Garrity. [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">AlleyOop Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Why would you want to trade Foyle? You've finally landed the solid back-up center mentor Howard. Your roster is now complete. Foyle is the missing piece of the puzzle, a true defensive stopper who will lock-down Shaq on the block and do the little "Mutumbo finger-wag" to boot. [​IMG] [​IMG]

    He better just hope he doesn't have to go up against Pat Garrity in practice, because Foyle will get physically dominated and abused on the block like a little school-girl by the man-child that is Pat "the-beast-from-the-east" Garrity. [​IMG]</div>

    I'm not saying trade Foyle now that we just got him. I'm saying that if the Warriors would've traded him, they could've gotten something for him.

    [​IMG] [​IMG] I don't think Garrity is allowed to practice with the other members on the team.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">CLos Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I'm not saying trade Foyle now that we just got him. I'm saying that if the Warriors would've traded him, they could've gotten something for him.</div>

    Good point. There were a ton of teams desperate for a $10 million back-up center with no game whatsoever. He was a valuable trade chip. I heard Portland offered Greg Oden, but Mullin was holding out for a better deal. In the end, nothing could get worked out so GS had to offer the buyout. [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">CLos Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">And you couldn't possibly get a 2nd round pick from trading Foyle?</div>

    If anybody wants Foyle for a 2nd rounder including his massive 19 mils salary for two years, I would personally gift-wrap Foyle and send him via overnight shipping in my expense. But Suns have to package two first rounder for Thomas' 9 mils/1 year contract. So, Foyle and his massive two years contract for 2nd rounder is pretty much impossible. I mean, just imagine if Orlando spent 9 mils caproom and 2nd rounder to receive Foyle... Can we get 2nd rounder for a similar garbage with 2 years contract? Maybe, maybe not. But, we need as much of financial flexibility as possible to resign both Biedrins and Monta next season. We got roughly 3 mils of flexibility by buying out Foyle's contract, and that's far more valuable than 2nd rounder at this point...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">AlleyOop Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Good point. There were a ton of teams desperate for a $10 million back-up center with no game whatsoever. He was a valuable trade chip. I heard Portland offered Greg Oden, but Mullin was holding out for a better deal. In the end, nothing could get worked out so GS had to offer the buyout. [​IMG]</div>

    I forgot about the 2 year contract.[​IMG] Damn, how dumb are the Warriors for doing that?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">CLos Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I forgot about the 2 year contract.[​IMG] Damn, how dumb are the Warriors for doing that?</div>

    I know, they should have traded him for draft picks like you said, right? If only Mullin had your cell phone number... oh well. [​IMG]
     
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    Adonal is garbage, you magic fans will find out first hand.

    On the positive side, he's making peanuts so it's not a big deal. I'd be more worried about Rashard Lewis living up to that contract.
     
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    As a Raptor fan, I can't wait till Foyle gets burned by Bosh and Bargnani. But that is just my bias.

    I think Lewis should give up some of his money to Foyle.
     
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    Yeah, that Lewis deal is almost worse than the deal GS gave to Foyle a few years back. $19 mils a year, for a role player? C'mon! [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    Yeah, they're really banking on the combo of Lewis and Howard. I'd give a slim chance of that working out very well. Just from Howard and Lewis, they have very little room to give other players any decent contracts, even when Howard and Lewis are the only two players on the salary cap in about three years. http://hoopshype.com/salaries/orlando.htm

    Has Lewis ever been an all-star? He better make the all-star team in the East. That is the least he can do to earn his new paychecks, at least from a Magic fan's point of view.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Clif25 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah, they're really banking on the combo of Lewis and Howard. I'd give a slim chance of that working out very well. Just from Howard and Lewis, they have very little room to give other players any decent contracts, even when Howard and Lewis are the only two players on the salary cap in about three years. http://hoopshype.com/salaries/orlando.htm

    Has Lewis ever been an all-star? He better make the all-star team in the East. That is the least he can do to earn his new paychecks, at least from a Magic fan's point of view.</div>

    Yes he has. Lewis and Howard could be a dangerous combo in the East actually. They could still trade Turkoglu's contract for some solid role players.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AlleyOop:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah, that Lewis deal is almost worse than the deal GS gave to Foyle a few years back. $19 mils a year, for a role player? C'mon!</div>

    How's it worse?? You guys overpaid for at the time a backup Center while we got the best FA available this season and a former All-Star! He's easily a 20+ppg scorer especially on this team.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Master Shake:</div><div class="quote_post">As a Raptor fan, I can't wait till Foyle gets burned by Bosh and Bargnani. But that is just my bias.

    I think Lewis should give up some of his money to Foyle.</div>

    First off, isn't Bargnani a SF? Second off, Bargnani isn't gonna burn Foyle because Andrea is too weak inside. If Foyle has been known to slow down Shaq, wouldn't he at least do a solid job against Bosh?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">First off, isn't Bargnani a SF? Second off, Bargnani isn't gonna burn Foyle because Andrea is too weak inside. If Foyle has been known to slow down Shaq, wouldn't he at least do a solid job against Bosh?</div>

    He's 7 feet tall..he will play centre. Also, Bargnani will mkae Foyle come out to guard him or Andrea will hit 3's all day.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Master Shake Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">He's 7 feet tall..he will play centre. Also, Bargnani will mkae Foyle come out to guard him or Andrea will hit 3's all day.</div>

    He's 7 ft but he's still lanky as hell. The lineups could be switched up so Dwight could guard him.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">CLos Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Bargnani isn't gonna burn Foyle because Andrea is too weak inside. If Foyle has been known to slow down Shaq, wouldn't he at least do a solid job against Bosh?</div>

    Who said Foyle has been known to slow down Shaq lol !?! [​IMG] Now you're just dreaming, CLos.

    But keep it up. It's nice to hear someone else trying to justify having Foyle on the team. Yeah, you got it dude. He's gonna be your Shaq-stopper. The X-factor. The juggernaut inside. [​IMG]

    I guess while you're at it, you can talk up the Lewis signing too. Actually I'm shocked to find a Magic fan who is happy with that horrible signing. Yeah, you got a bonefide all-star and 20+ ppg scorer. A future hall-of-famer. Sure, he's getting paid Kobe Bryant / Dirk Nowitzki type dollars, but he's just as good, yeah? I mean Orlando is paying him more than Dwight Howard. That makes sense, yeah? [​IMG]
     

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