LeBron Is Frustrated In Cleveland

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  1. NJNetz

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Chicago Tribune -
    LeBron James has let Cleveland management know that he wants some help on the court and he's rather unhappy that he hasn't gotten any, according to the Chicago Tribune.

    With Jason Kidd rumored to be halfway to Dallas and the Hawks acquisition of Mike Bibby, James is reportedly upset.

    "We're not that good. That's what everyone talks about. We beat Detroit. We didn't beat Detroit; Detroit beat themselves. Washington was missing key guys, and New Jersey didn't play up to their capabilities. Enough of the Cavs now. You all got me a little upset."</div>
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Joker @ Feb 18 2008, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Chicago Tribune -
    LeBron James has let Cleveland management know that he wants some help on the court and he's rather unhappy that he hasn't gotten any, according to the Chicago Tribune.

    With Jason Kidd rumored to be halfway to Dallas and the Hawks acquisition of Mike Bibby, James is reportedly upset.

    "We're not that good. That's what everyone talks about. We beat Detroit. We didn't beat Detroit; Detroit beat themselves. Washington was missing key guys, and New Jersey didn't play up to their capabilities. Enough of the Cavs now. You all got me a little upset."</div>
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    No worries, Brooklyn isn't gonna be much better at this rate.

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  3. Jumpman

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    I don't get why he is complaining. The team was on fire heading into the All-Star break.
     
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    Problem with the Cavs is that they don't have any good trading chips and anything that they have that has any value they can't let go of. The only people I can see them getting are guys who are being pawned off for nothing. Zach Randolph, Eddy Curry, Vince Carter etc. They might even have a chance at Artest. No one wants to touch Hughes, Ilgauskas, or Donyell Marshall. Daniel Gibson and Varejao are too important to the team to move and also just aren't very valuable prospects.
     
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    He see's that this team is no more than a second round exit.
     
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    The East is Detroit and Boston, simple as that. He knows he won't be able to compete anymore with Larry 'pretty misses' Hughes as his second option. It's been tough for him and the Cavs because they're really begging to realize that last year was a fluke and things look alot more like 05-06 now. It's the Cavs fault, it was a horrendous decision to sign Hughes to such a hefty contract in the 05 off-season. I wouldn't be surprised to see LH be gone at the deadline.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Run BJM @ Feb 18 2008, 12:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Problem with the Cavs is that they don't have any good trading chips and anything that they have that has any value they can't let go of. The only people I can see them getting are guys who are being pawned off for nothing. Zach Randolph, Eddy Curry, Vince Carter etc. They might even have a chance at Artest. No one wants to touch Hughes, Ilgauskas, or Donyell Marshall. Daniel Gibson and Varejao are too important to the team to move and also just aren't very valuable prospects.</div>

    Not sure Artest should be in that group as he has an expiring contract which the Kings site as a reason not to move him now that they have moved Bibby for expiring contracts.

    -Petey
     
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    RunBJM hit the nail right on the head. The Cavs couldn't get it done because the only trading pieces they have are too valuable to them to trade. The people they want to trade, mainly Hughes, have god-awful contracts that no one wants to touch.

    The other bit of blame to go around should go to Danny Ferry. He gave Hughes a huge contract, easily overpaying him in a summer where Michael Redd was available, someone who'd be a legit 2nd option for the Cavs.

    But in all honesty, does it matter what they do? The Cavs won't beat Boston and they won't beat Detroit. They're the top two teams out East and no one else really matters. If they're not in the ECF, I'd be thoroughly shocked.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey @ Feb 18 2008, 02:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Run BJM @ Feb 18 2008, 12:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Problem with the Cavs is that they don't have any good trading chips and anything that they have that has any value they can't let go of. The only people I can see them getting are guys who are being pawned off for nothing. Zach Randolph, Eddy Curry, Vince Carter etc. They might even have a chance at Artest. No one wants to touch Hughes, Ilgauskas, or Donyell Marshall. Daniel Gibson and Varejao are too important to the team to move and also just aren't very valuable prospects.</div>

    Not sure Artest should be in that group as he has an expiring contract which the Kings site as a reason not to move him now that they have moved Bibby for expiring contracts.

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    Yes, but having already conceded defeat for the season I'm sure they'd rather move him for something of value instead of letting him walk in the offseason for nothing. If they can get expiring contracts + a pick, prospect, or just a player who they would like to keep for the future then they'd probably rather do that.

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The other bit of blame to go around should go to Danny Ferry. He gave Hughes a huge contract, easily overpaying him in a summer where Michael Redd was available, someone who'd be a legit 2nd option for the Cavs.</div>

    Yeah Ferry has been horrible. He signed Hughes, Ilgauskas, Donyell Marshall, Damon Jones. Wow. Wasted a TON of money on those guys and now its handcuffing the team from improving. Thats why now their only options are trading crappy players with big contracts for other teams' crappy players with big contracts.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Run BJM @ Feb 18 2008, 02:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey @ Feb 18 2008, 02:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Run BJM @ Feb 18 2008, 12:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Problem with the Cavs is that they don't have any good trading chips and anything that they have that has any value they can't let go of. The only people I can see them getting are guys who are being pawned off for nothing. Zach Randolph, Eddy Curry, Vince Carter etc. They might even have a chance at Artest. No one wants to touch Hughes, Ilgauskas, or Donyell Marshall. Daniel Gibson and Varejao are too important to the team to move and also just aren't very valuable prospects.</div>

    Not sure Artest should be in that group as he has an expiring contract which the Kings site as a reason not to move him now that they have moved Bibby for expiring contracts.

    -Petey
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    Yes, but having already conceded defeat for the season I'm sure they'd rather move him for something of value instead of letting him walk in the offseason for nothing. If they can get expiring contracts + a pick, prospect, or just a player who they would like to keep for the future then they'd probably rather do that.

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    It was reported they rejected a Miller/Artest for JO deal already on TNT over the All Star Weekend.

    -Petey
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Moo2K4 @ Feb 18 2008, 07:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The other bit of blame to go around should go to Danny Ferry. He gave Hughes a huge contract, easily overpaying him in a summer where Michael Redd was available, someone who'd be a legit 2nd option for the Cavs.

    But in all honesty, does it matter what they do? The Cavs won't beat Boston and they won't beat Detroit. They're the top two teams out East and no one else really matters. If they're not in the ECF, I'd be thoroughly shocked.</div>

    Slightly harsh on Ferry, seeing as Hughes was definitely his third option in that offseason. He wanted Ray Allen or Michael Redd over Hughes, but they both opted for a return to Seattle and Milwaukee respectively. In retrospect the decision to sign Hughes was bad, but he was coming off a career year and looked like a good complement to LeBron. The Cavs really need some help for LeBron, and I think their best expendable trade bait is Drew Gooden, which shows you how deep they are in crap at the moment. They will need to combine him with Ira Newble's contract and perhaps Damon Jones to a team needing a PF and a shooter for a true PG. The Cavs are in an awful situation salary cap-wise, and that won't be over until the summer before LeBron can opt out. That is crunch time, and that is what the front office have to keep an eye on. They need to keep LeBron happy now, but they also need to ensure they are in a position to make him very happy before he can opt out. If they can win a Championship or at least make a strong run at it (take Finals to 6 games for example) just before the expriation of LeBron's contract, he ought to stay. If not, they are screwed.
     
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    Hughes was tremendous for the Wizards. Maybe Ferry can be blamed for not figuring out that Hughes has some sort of issues that don't allow him to shine similarly for the Cavs.

    For Washington:
    2002-03 12.8 PPG, 4.6 RPG, 3.1 APG, 1.3 SPG on 46.7% shooting
    2003-04 18.8 PPG, 5.3 RPG, 2.4 APG, 1.6 SPG on 39.7% shooting
    2004-05 22.1 PPG, 6.3 RPG, 4.7 APG, 2.9 SPG on 43.0% shooting
    ^^^ that last season is why Ferry signed him for the big bucks.
     
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    From what ive read, Lebron is frustrated at the critices who say that they didnt really beat detroit, washington etc.
     
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    I think it's a bit of both, to be honest. He's upset and the hype surrounding the team since last year (i.e. it was a total fluke), but he's also upset that no key acquisitions have been made. It does seem that Mike Miller and Kyle Lowry might be on the verge of joining though.
     

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