GArenas's Lottery Mock Draft

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  1. Mr. J

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    It makes sense that we'll draft Galinari even though I'm not a big fan of overseas players. He seems okay but what separates him from other international busts? He seems to be another unathletic, no-defense-playing prospect with not as much potential as everyone thinks. Personally I'd prefer Gordon. If we can't get Bayless, Mayo, or Gordon then I say trade the pick.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr. J @ May 21 2008, 06:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It makes sense that we'll draft Galinari even though I'm not a big fan of overseas players. He seems okay but what separates him from other international busts? He seems to be another unathletic, no-defense-playing prospect with not as much potential as everyone thinks. Personally I'd prefer Gordon. If we can't get Bayless, Mayo, or Gordon then I say trade the pick.</div>

    How would Gordon fit in with Crawford and Marbury? Marbury is claiming that he's going to come back and be the franchise player that Donnie Walsh wants him to be while D'Antoni is apparently high on Crawford.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 21 2008, 06:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Okafor's best season was his rookie year, where he played 40% of his games at PF. The more time he started seeing at C the more his numbers fell off.</div>

    Okafor's rookie season was only his best season as far as his ppg goes, and his ppg falls off as his career goes on because of two reasons. For one, he hurt his ankle and had to sit out most of '05-06, during which he gained a lot of weight which made it hard for him to rehab. Secondly, the Bobcats got more offensive options. When Okafor was drafted, he was all the Bobcats had. Since then, they've acquired players like Jason Richardson, Raymond Felton, Adam Morrison, etc. (not to mention the improvement Gerald Wallace has made since the Bobcats acquired him that season as a 2 ppg scrub). Naturally, Okafor's role has gone down offensively, but his FG% has gone way up.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GArenas @ May 21 2008, 06:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr. J @ May 21 2008, 06:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It makes sense that we'll draft Galinari even though I'm not a big fan of overseas players. He seems okay but what separates him from other international busts? He seems to be another unathletic, no-defense-playing prospect with not as much potential as everyone thinks. Personally I'd prefer Gordon. If we can't get Bayless, Mayo, or Gordon then I say trade the pick.</div>

    How would Gordon fit in with Crawford and Marbury? Marbury is claiming that he's going to come back and be the franchise player that Donnie Walsh wants him to be while D'Antoni is apparently high on Crawford.
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    Well, Marbury isn't as much of a chucker as he is portrayed. He's as good as gone anyway. His contract expires next season, so the sun is soon setting on his Knick career. At the end of the day, Gordon is a good prospect. Before his wrist injury and Indian's coaching situation he was putting up 25 PPG on 50% shooting from the field 45% from downtown. Frankly, I don't care how he fits into the Knicks because there's a good chance most of them will be gone including Crawford. I know he doesn't t have the most attractive salary, but Crawford still averaged 20/5; he should be worth something.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Voodoo Child @ May 21 2008, 06:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 21 2008, 06:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Okafor's best season was his rookie year, where he played 40% of his games at PF. The more time he started seeing at C the more his numbers fell off.</div>

    Okafor's rookie season was only his best season as far as his ppg goes, and his ppg falls off as his career goes on because of two reasons. For one, he hurt his ankle and had to sit out most of '05-06, during which he gained a lot of weight which made it hard for him to rehab. Secondly, the Bobcats got more offensive options. When Okafor was drafted, he was all the Bobcats had. Since then, they've acquired players like Jason Richardson, Raymond Felton, Adam Morrison, etc. (not to mention the improvement Gerald Wallace has made since the Bobcats acquired him that season as a 2 ppg scrub). Naturally, Okafor's role has gone down offensively, but his FG% has gone way up.
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    Okafor played every game this season, he should use the injury as an excuse, They had more offensive options, but that doesn't make it an excuse to only average 13.8 pts. the reason is because he had to out of posistion, if you bring in a big man with size like a Joel Przybilla for example, and let Okafor slide to the PF spot, I bet you his numbers would increase.

    IMO the Bobcats should try the #9 pick and Jared Dudley to the Blazers for the 13 spot and Joel Pryzbilla

    C. Joel Pryzbillia
    PF. Emeka Okafor
    Sf. Gerald Wallace
    Sg. Jason Richardson
    PG. Raymond Felton or D.J Augustin
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 21 2008, 09:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Voodoo Child @ May 21 2008, 06:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 21 2008, 06:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Okafor's best season was his rookie year, where he played 40% of his games at PF. The more time he started seeing at C the more his numbers fell off.</div>

    Okafor's rookie season was only his best season as far as his ppg goes, and his ppg falls off as his career goes on because of two reasons. For one, he hurt his ankle and had to sit out most of '05-06, during which he gained a lot of weight which made it hard for him to rehab. Secondly, the Bobcats got more offensive options. When Okafor was drafted, he was all the Bobcats had. Since then, they've acquired players like Jason Richardson, Raymond Felton, Adam Morrison, etc. (not to mention the improvement Gerald Wallace has made since the Bobcats acquired him that season as a 2 ppg scrub). Naturally, Okafor's role has gone down offensively, but his FG% has gone way up.
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    Okafor played every game this season, he should use the injury as an excuse, They had more offensive options, but that doesn't make it an excuse to only average 13.8 pts. the reason is because he had to out of posistion, if you bring in a big man with size like a Joel Przybilla for example, and let Okafor slide to the PF spot, I bet you his numbers would increase.

    IMO the Bobcats should try the #9 pick and Jared Dudley to the Blazers for the 13 spot and Joel Pryzbilla

    C. Joel Pryzbillia
    PF. Emeka Okafor
    Sf. Gerald Wallace
    Sg. Jason Richardson
    PG. Raymond Felton or D.J Augustin
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    I wasn't saying his injury was an excuse for this season. I was saying that it's a reason his rookie year was a best year ppg-wise. His rookie year was his only injury-free year where he didn't have to compete with other offensive options on the Bobcats. Ever since then his ppg numbers haven't been as high because he was injured the majority of his sophomore season, was no longer the Bobcats' first offensive option his third season with the emergence of Gerald Wallace and Raymond Felton, and this season he was pushed even further down on the 'Cats offensive rotation with the acquisition of Jason Richardson. It has nothing to do with whether he plays PF or C. Anyone who knows Okafor's game know that he's always been a dominant rebounder and a defensive stopper first, with issues on the offensive end. It's not a position change that made that happen; he's been that way since he entered the league, a league which he entered as a center.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Voodoo Child @ May 21 2008, 04:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 21 2008, 03:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>GReat mock dude. I still don't see Charlotte picking a PF, when they've made it obvious that they want a center. AlsO the Kings got some nice talent at the two, so I don't see Westbrook being a good fit there. With Artest leaving they could be looking for a SF, or if Augustin is avaliable take him.</div>

    Out of curiosity, where and when did the Bobcats make it clear they wanted a center and that Okafor was not that center? Besides, if they don't want Okafor as their center, why can't they play Kevin Love there?

    I don't have any major problems with this mock, but I disagree mostly with the Knicks' pick. New York really needs help on the wing. Small forward was their least efficient position both offensively and defensively last season. Their only major free agent loss also comes out on the wing with Fred Jones. Not to mention, D'Antoni played with Gallinari's father for eight years in Italy, so whatever his influence is on the draft, I've got to think he's going to push hard for Gallinari. Other than that, I like the mock. Good job, GArenas.
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    Fred Jones played a majority of his minutes @ the 1 this season.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ May 22 2008, 06:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Voodoo Child @ May 21 2008, 04:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 21 2008, 03:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>GReat mock dude. I still don't see Charlotte picking a PF, when they've made it obvious that they want a center. AlsO the Kings got some nice talent at the two, so I don't see Westbrook being a good fit there. With Artest leaving they could be looking for a SF, or if Augustin is avaliable take him.</div>

    Out of curiosity, where and when did the Bobcats make it clear they wanted a center and that Okafor was not that center? Besides, if they don't want Okafor as their center, why can't they play Kevin Love there?

    I don't have any major problems with this mock, but I disagree mostly with the Knicks' pick. New York really needs help on the wing. Small forward was their least efficient position both offensively and defensively last season. Their only major free agent loss also comes out on the wing with Fred Jones. Not to mention, D'Antoni played with Gallinari's father for eight years in Italy, so whatever his influence is on the draft, I've got to think he's going to push hard for Gallinari. Other than that, I like the mock. Good job, GArenas.
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    Fred Jones played a majority of his minutes @ the 1 this season.
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    Either way, he's a player who can and did log minutes at the wing. Losing him hurts their depth on the wing more than at the point, because Marbury, Robinson, and Crawford are still on the roster, and all three can run the point.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Voodoo Child @ May 24 2008, 05:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ May 22 2008, 06:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Voodoo Child @ May 21 2008, 04:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 21 2008, 03:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>GReat mock dude. I still don't see Charlotte picking a PF, when they've made it obvious that they want a center. AlsO the Kings got some nice talent at the two, so I don't see Westbrook being a good fit there. With Artest leaving they could be looking for a SF, or if Augustin is avaliable take him.</div>

    Out of curiosity, where and when did the Bobcats make it clear they wanted a center and that Okafor was not that center? Besides, if they don't want Okafor as their center, why can't they play Kevin Love there?

    I don't have any major problems with this mock, but I disagree mostly with the Knicks' pick. New York really needs help on the wing. Small forward was their least efficient position both offensively and defensively last season. Their only major free agent loss also comes out on the wing with Fred Jones. Not to mention, D'Antoni played with Gallinari's father for eight years in Italy, so whatever his influence is on the draft, I've got to think he's going to push hard for Gallinari. Other than that, I like the mock. Good job, GArenas.
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    Fred Jones played a majority of his minutes @ the 1 this season.
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    Either way, he's a player who can and did log minutes at the wing. Losing him hurts their depth on the wing more than at the point, because Marbury, Robinson, and Crawford are still on the roster, and all three can run the point.
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    If they don't use him at the wing, it doesn't hurt their wing depth, but I digress.
    The Knicks still need wing help.
     

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