<div><object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/J1bDFVJZMhc&"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/J1bDFVJZMhc&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350" /></embed></object></div> Someone get this bitch a pack of tampax, some midol, and some chocolate. He's vag is leaking..
You're ignoring the 4 Lakers who had three fouls before Halftime. It doesn't matter what happened at the end, the bitching is ridiculous.
There were missed calls all game, VC. In fact, they missed Fisher's shot hitting the rim. Was that a foul? Yeah, but it's also playoff basketball. If he were to make that foul call, you'd hear people bitching about letting the players play. It's a double-edged sword. He swallowed the whistle and let the players call the game. Had he called the foul, there would be media outlets and fans (Laker ones, mostly) calling for the refs to let the players decide the game and for him to swallow his whistle. It's also is mind-blowing that Kobe shot 29 times, but didn't get a single foul call.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>He is a tool, but he's right. Can you argue with anything he said?</div> lol...I don't know if crawford didn't make the call cause he hates the spurs, but it was a 2 shot foul, and I don't think any ref who hates a particular team should be reffing period...........with all that being said, karma is a bitch....last year the league handed the Spurs a game in phoenix so it serves them right somewhat........ <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>It's also is mind-blowing that Kobe shot 29 times, but didn't get a single foul call.</div> kobe also didn't take it to the basket though. for the most part he was shooting jumpshots........
yeah spurs did get a lot of FTs last night, but that usually happens with the home team. With all this being said it remains a fact that the NBA "by far" has the worst officiating of any sport....it seems like there's a "call" or "calls" every year that people complain about. I think the league really needs to take a thorough look into the way games are reffed. I mean it's like we "expect" and "accept" the home team to take more freethrows. We "expect" certain players to get freethrows, because they're stars. Hell the man known worldwide as the greatest player to ever play the game had his most famous moment when he clearly shoved a guy outta the way, lol. It's just gotten way out of hand imo, and it's been bad for some time now.............I understand "mistakes", but there are more than "mistakes" happening year after year.............
If you can whine about the end, then why not the rest of the poorly called game? You've got no case. You forcefully want the Lakers to lose. And you're a Wade fan.
Wade still has fans? Talk about falling from superstar status, quickly. LOL and people actually compared him to Kobe.
^^^^wade was a bad man, before the injury and even had tex winter questioning who was better of he and kobe.......let's not make a year make us forget.......
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Dream @ May 28 2008, 04:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>^^^^wade was a bad man, before the injury and even had tex winter questioning who was better of he and kobe.......let's not make a year make us forget.......</div> And Wade fans shouldn't be complaining about getting screwed on a call.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ May 28 2008, 03:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You're ignoring the 4 Lakers who had three fouls before Halftime. It doesn't matter what happened at the end, the bitching is ridiculous.</div> It's not the fact that the reffs made a bad call that's pissing everyone off. It's the degree that the call was a bad call that's got everyone going crazy. It doesn't matter what happened in the first 47 minutes of the game. The most important minute is the last minute, and the no-call that was made was the most blatant no-call I've seen in recent memory, not like a debatable and easily mistaken call like Fisher's buzzerbeater. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>There were missed calls all game, VC. In fact, they missed Fisher's shot hitting the rim. Was that a foul? Yeah, but it's also playoff basketball. If he were to make that foul call, you'd hear people bitching about letting the players play.</div> Mamba, was it a foul? I'm tired of hearing excuses like "Barry should have sold it better," "people would bitch even if the call was made," etc. A foul is a foul. There's no two ways around it. Let me ask you this, if the roles were reversed and Kobe were taking the last minute shot, do you think the foul would have been called? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>It's also is mind-blowing that Kobe shot 29 times, but didn't get a single foul call.</div> I forget who it was, but someone posted a really good link to debunk that point yesterday in the game thread, where Bowen was quoted saying that he prided himself on never fouling Kobe and making him get his points the hard way. Not to mention that like Dream said, Kobe was settling for jumpshots all night. That's not to say there were one or two missed called on Bryant along the way, but to point at the fact that Kobe didn't get to the line as a sign that the reffs were trying to screw over the Lakers just says that you don't know where to attribute your blame. Why blame the reffs and not Kobe for not attacking the rim more? Most Laker fans need a dose of objectivity. Had it been the Lakers on the other side of the call, most Laker fans would be raising hell right now. It's important to realize that it's not a you vs. the world thing, it's an us vs. them thing. It's not the Lakers' fault there was a bad call, it's the league's poor officiating, and Laker fans should be just as concerned.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Voodoo Child @ May 28 2008, 04:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ May 28 2008, 03:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You're ignoring the 4 Lakers who had three fouls before Halftime. It doesn't matter what happened at the end, the bitching is ridiculous.</div> It's not the fact that the reffs made a bad call that's pissing everyone off. It's the degree that the call was a bad call that's got everyone going crazy. It doesn't matter what happened in the first 47 minutes of the game. The most important minute is the last minute, and the no-call that was made was the most blatant no-call I've seen in recent memory, not like a debatable and easily mistaken call like Fisher's buzzerbeater. </div> What's pissing Laker fans off is ignoring the amount of calls that did go in favor of the Spurs. Duncan was getting touch fouls called, don't call it so physical for Kobe then. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>There were missed calls all game, VC. In fact, they missed Fisher's shot hitting the rim. Was that a foul? Yeah, but it's also playoff basketball. If he were to make that foul call, you'd hear people bitching about letting the players play.</div> Mamba, was it a foul? I'm tired of hearing excuses like "Barry should have sold it better," "people would bitch even if the call was made," etc. A foul is a foul. There's no two ways around it. Let me ask you this, if the roles were reversed and Kobe were taking the last minute shot, do you think the foul would have been called? </div> Did it cost them the game? Were they not getting the benefit of the doubt the whole game? Not every call is going to go your way, and you conveniently ignore the Fish shot that hit the rim. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>It's also is mind-blowing that Kobe shot 29 times, but didn't get a single foul call.</div> I forget who it was, but someone posted a really good link to debunk that point yesterday in the game thread, where Bowen was quoted saying that he prided himself on never fouling Kobe and making him get his points the hard way. Not to mention that like Dream said, Kobe was settling for jumpshots all night. That's not to say there were one or two missed called on Bryant along the way, but to point at the fact that Kobe didn't get to the line as a sign that the reffs were trying to screw over the Lakers just says that you don't know where to attribute your blame. Why blame the reffs and not Kobe for not attacking the rim more? </div> First VC, let me see this vid. Second, he got fouled a couple of times, the fact that you vaguely denounce his entire performance is pretty silly to me. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Most Laker fans need a dose of objectivity. Had it been the Lakers on the other side of the call, most Laker fans would be raising hell right now. It's important to realize that it's not a you vs. the world thing, it's an us vs. them thing. It's not the Lakers' fault there was a bad call, it's the league's poor officiating, and Laker fans should be just as concerned.</div> Yeah Lakers fans would complain if the shoe was on the other foot, and they would be wrong because their case is weak. A call at the end of the game is not worth ten points, or enough to make up for what happened. It's important to realize that it wasn't a one minute game.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Mamba @ May 28 2008, 03:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It's also is mind-blowing that Kobe shot 29 times, but didn't get a single foul call.</div> I'll regurgitate the same thing you Laker fans tell me when I bitch and moan about how the Lakers are always +20 in FTs against the Warriors: Kobe wasn't getting in the paint enough, he was just jacking jumpshots, he didn't force the issue. Don't care if its true or not but thats what I always hear form you guys when I'm butthurt because the Lakers had 28 Fts in the 4th quarter and the Warriors had 3 but you guys make it out to be legit. Also wish I had the luxury of expecting my players to be given a certain number of FTs every game and being shocked and appalled when they get 0. If every teams fans had these standards there would be riots in NBA cities daily.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Wade was never on Kobe's level. Wade was a product of Shaq.</div> the same shaq in the '06 finals that made his team worst when he was on the floor rather than Mourning????? Anyways I'll stay away from this argument, because it's kinda pointless.... <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>It's not the Lakers' fault there was a bad call, it's the league's poor officiating, and Laker fans should be just as concerned.</div> I agree. Like I said earlier every year there's controversy over some call come playoff time........the lakers might get the short end of the stick next time......
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Run BJM @ May 28 2008, 05:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Mamba @ May 28 2008, 03:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It's also is mind-blowing that Kobe shot 29 times, but didn't get a single foul call.</div> I'll regurgitate the same thing you Laker fans tell me when I bitch and moan about how the Lakers are always +20 in FTs against the Warriors: Kobe wasn't getting in the paint enough, he was just jacking jumpshots, he didn't force the issue. Don't care if its true or not but thats what I always hear form you guys when I'm butthurt because the Lakers had 28 Fts in the 4th quarter and the Warriors had 3 but you guys make it out to be legit. Also wish I had the luxury of expecting my players to be given a certain number of FTs every game and being shocked and appalled when they get 0. If every teams fans had these standards there would be riots in NBA cities daily. </div> Fine with me, Duncan shouldn't get star treatment then. Kobe should have gone to the FT line at least once, no one is saying it should have been 10 times for sure. Plus it isn't just about that.
You are probably right that Kobe got fouled on a couple of occassions, but Kobe was for the most part taking jumpers in which there was no contact. I remember when Kobe did drive on Bowen, a couple of times he drew a foul on Bowen, however he wasn't in the act of shooting, and the Spurs weren't in the penalty. Anyway for the entire game's perspective I think the Spurs had a slight benefit of the doubt on the calls, which kind of makes sense being in San Antonio. If home calls can be justified.
