Do you guys consider players like CJ Watson or Anthony Morrow scrubs? Just wondering. I personally don't, but I know a guy that hates the Warriors who calls them scrubs all the time.
Those guys aren't scrubs. They're probably the most solid role players you can find for that cheap of a price. The guys that are scrubs don't contribute anything, they don't hustle, and are only good for fouls.
I wouldn't listen to the guy. What about Ben Wallace? There's more than just scoring... Seriously, a scrub is an nba body that doesn't contribute anything when given minutes. Although, it could be used to describe somebody that just isn't good at a lot of things... but maybe one or two good things. You figure anybody who makes the nba is good enough to do something to keep the other team honest. Like constantly missing uncontested layups or dropping the easy catch is pretty scrub-like.
I consider Antoine Walker a scrub. A lazy one. I consider Sharif Abdur Rahim a scrub. These guys were underachieving, highly paid athletes.
Reef was a 20-10 guy at one point. He never did make he playoffs though did he? He was in a lot of unfortunate situations, but has a decent individual career.
Scrub = about 90% of any Warriors roster from 1994-2006. There's a lot of names there, take your pick. On this current team there's not too many guys I would label as scrubs. I have a lot of other labels for many of them, but not scrub.
How can someone hate the Warriors? They are too sorry and pathetic of a franchise to hate. Maybe he's a Mavericks fan? I consider CJ Watson and Anthony Morrow more like potential undrafted gems. Neither was drafted, yet they've made some good performances in the NBA. Unfortunately they haven't found a consistent rhythm for their games. So they've had many times where they've looked like undrafted scrubs. But they are so young, that it may be too early to just call them a scrub. They have potential. But perhaps sometimes it looks like their potential may just be low end of the rotation player to come in and play a few minutes a game, so effectively a scrub. Give me (us) about five more months and then I will tell you if I think they are just scrubs or not.
Who's your favorite scrub? Mine of course is Bruno Sundov. EDIT: I'm guessing Warrior fans choose Calbert Cheaney.
Calbert Cheaney was a good one. He did like one great thing (midrange shooting marksmen) and everything else he pretty much was mediocre to lousy. I'd say ultimate scrub was Adonal Foyle. The guy sucked so badly as a basketball player, but he never gave less than 100%. He was likeable enough to sign him big bucks as a guy that could only block shots and make hustle plays. Pretty limited, considering a free agent euro center stopgap could have gotten us more.
I call Snow from Cleveland a scrub. Devin Brown is also a scrub; screws up in clutch situations and doesn't know how to play basketball.
This is an interesting thread. It seems to me the bigger the man, the bigger the scrub he was. My all-time Warriors scrubs would be: Foyle, Zarko Cabarkapa, Nikoloz Tskitishvili (more of a bust than scrub), Todd Fuller, Bill Curley, Vonteego Cummings, Damon Jones, Chris Washburn (more of a bust than scrub), Alton Lister, Uwe Blab Guys who may be scrubs: POB, Ike (more of a bust than scrub) Guys who people thought were scrubs, but weren't: Bimbo Coles, Calbert Cheaney, David Wood
Reef had one of the best low post games I've seen for a tweener and he was a good passer. Nice player, but unfortunately winning teams have their 20/10 passing threat playing some form of defense. The guy was not a shotblocker nor a strong post defender.
Sharif was a true gentlemen; never a complainer, always tried his hardest. Do not call him a scrub. All-time scrub? Jack Haley (all size); Chris Mihm. Why are they even in the league? Just for size filler. Walker, never like his game but he was a legitimate all-star; at least for one year.
Walker was NEVER a "scrub". Anyone who is a 3-time allstar, outscored Shaq in the finals, and is an NBA Champion should NEVER be considered a "Scrub".
I don't think Antoine Walker was a scrub, but he sure doesn't play very efficiently or stay in shape. Hey that sounds like Baron Davis! Maybe we can't argue scrub because it's all relative. It's relative to a stage in a player's career, it's relative to the competition that's out there... I bet any nba veteran over age 35 that still is in great shape could school some young guy that never made it professionally. I would say the most suspect nba players that could indeed be scrubs are centers. Polished centers are so hard to find because how many 7 footers are there in this world and how many are athletically coordinated to handle the nba speed of the game? I mean they keep bringing these 7 foot nothings into the league just because they can block shots or run the floor well. They don't know the rest of the game and they're pretty much deemed useless outside of blocking shots... I mean DJ Mbenga? Are you kidding me? Adonal Foyle had more fundamentals than that guy. Mbenga was a scrub and how he got more burn over Patrick O'Bryant was beyond me. At least POB could catch. Don Nelson = clown when it comes to patience in developing an nba true center. Tskitishvilli was a scrub-like player only because of inconsistency and maybe confidence, but he was pretty talented and I wonder if he could have developed into a more consistent big. Same with Zarko. Another talented guy shot down by Nelly. Both weren't really crucial players, but they were definitely useful to a team game. I really think scrubs should describe an nba guy that isn't very capable in a lot of nba basketball related duties. Like they cannot be counted on to inbound the ball, run simple plays, or fail to recognize the shotclock/game situation and take the correct course of action. I think scrubs are typically guys that don't have much quickness upstairs. If you don't react smartly, it's pretty scrubbish. Then again, I've seen productive players like Mickael Pietrus act like a scrub when it came to fouls and tight game situations... same with Baron and same with Derek Fisher.