I don't think I'm a Yi basher. But he's been trash this year, that's a fact. He had two good games. Not a big deal. Let's see what happens next. Sean had a string of awesome games and last year and where is he now?
Haters never realize they're haters. If you have to defend yourself with Swat... that's pretty sad. Your logic, lets break it down. Swat suck this year but was good last year -----> Yi = trash. It's quite laughable... thanks, you made my day. That's a fact!
Don't get me wrong, I'm happy that he had 2 good games in a row. But that doesn't cancel out a bunch of bad ones before them.
Actually, it does. When you contribute to the the team and they win. That player deserves credit. You also have to remember, Yi lead the nets in +/- So, we all enjoy bashing Yi when he's bad, but he actually improves we're all waiting in the shadows for another bad game.
So say a player (and I just mean in general, not Yi) has 20 bad games in a row, and then 2 good ones. That suddenly means he's a good player now? Does Yi deserve credit for what he did these last two games? Of course, he played great and the team won. I can't help but be happy about that. Do 2 games completely change how I look at a player despite how they've played most of the time prior to that? No. I'm not waiting to go back to bash him. I hope he keeps it up and plays every night like he has the past two games and the Nets keep winning. But he hasn't shown me enough this year to be completely sold on that happening yet.
Inform me please, what consitutes a good game? Some say YI only had 2, which i beg to differ but before i want to dispute that i need to know what constitutes or merrit the tag, "a good game?"
From the desk of what some would call a "YI Basher": 1. A good game for Yi does not constitute a crazy amount of points and can even withstand lower shot efficiency. 2. At the same time, 12 points when they are all open spot up jumpers and 8 rebounds, when they are all of a defensive nature and merely because he is assigned to stay back does NOT constitute a good game. "good" games are when YI gets some O-rebounds, blocks shots, plays solid D, goes to the hole with power and most importantly: is consistently aggressive and tough throughout the game. That is a good-very good game for Yi and he has had 3 of those the whole season... at most. The last 2 were definitely two of them and I for one, will be hoping and hollering for him to have some more. Go YI! Gi Nets. Go Newark!
I agree that Yi hasn't been a strong contributor for most of the season. But I think much of it had to do with how the Nets were using him...all he was doing for most of the season was standing out at the 3pt line waiting for Harris or Carter to kick the ball out to him; not, IMHO, the best use of an athletic 7-footer. In these last two games, he was getting more plays called for him...he was posting up, pick-and-rolling, etc. A guy with his skills is going to get anxious/bored just standing around waiting to take a long jumper, and I think that was starting to wear on him. I don't think it's coincidence that Yi put together two strong games with Devin Harris out of the lineup. With Harris out, Lawrence Frank had to call a game that involved everybody, not just his guards...
this thread is as irrational as the yi fans are trying to defend Yi after 8 straight bad games in a row. I'm glad he's put up two good games back to back. However, these games were against two of the worst teams in the nba, and against two of the worst front courts in the nba. And, two of the worst defensive teams in the nba. So, lets have this type of thread after he puts up a good game against the bucks, or celtics, or hawks or something substantial. Yes everybody on the planet agrees he does have some kind of potential, but a true great star will be able to produce against good teams. Its not all about just points and boards. Its about the little things that help a team win. Lately, he has been doing more things than just sit on the 3 pt line, and drift back to half court after the team misses. Lately he's been playing like a real basketball player. Is it a breakout or is it 2 good games against very poor teams. This thread maybe just a bit premature. Time will tell...... and agian Friday will be a good test for him. If he has a game like the past 2 against a decent front line he will open my eyes more. The bucks aren't champions but they are light years ahead of the kings and grizzlies. So the real question is : Is Yi building off of his successes or is he just good against really, really, bad teams...
CO-SIGN to the fullest. **ding ding ding** Congratz, you sir, have won teh internetz btw, I hope Yi still puts up 18-20 ppg even with DH back in the lineup....if Coach stops utilizing Yi the way he has been the past 2 games, that would really TRULY baffle the mind.
...and let's also not make judgements if Frank puts Yi back on the 3pt line all game and doesn't call any plays for him after Harris gets back in the lineup...
2 good games don't outweigh 20 bad games. I bash any player on the Nets squad that doesn't perform well consistently. I did it for some time to Carter last season. It's not my fault Yi has been trash most of the season. Blame him, not me. Don't get me wrong though. I hope more good games come from Yi.
What's your problem? When have I ever said anything bad about Yi? Never have. I wanted him to make the All-Star game, for Christ sakes. So don't automatically assume everybody is out to get Yi. Look at the poster's previous posts cause I haven't said anything about Yi. Not everyone is against your precious Yi. I said Yi has been playing like trash this year. I didn't say he is trash. He has had some great games, such as the last two. And I didn't say Swat was good last year, I said he had a string of awesome games. Look at these games... v. Bos, 11/14, 14 pts 7 reb 4 blk v. Mia, 11/17, 22 pts 8 reb 2 blk v. Sac, 12/18, 11 pts 7 reb 8 blk v. Det, 12/26, 11 pts 5 reb v. Was, 12/28, 14 pts 10 reb 5 blk v. Atl, 1/5, 15 pts 5 reb 2 blk v. Nyk, 1/16, 16 pts 5 reb 1 blk v. Lac, 1/19, 11 pts 11 reb 6 blk v. Cha, 2/8, 11 pts 6 reb 3 blk v. Dal, 2/10, 15 pts 7 reb 2 blk An overwhelming majority of those games he was getting 15-25 mins a game off the bench. He wasn't an automatic starter, like Yi. I didn't even bother to mention some of Sean's games where he only scored 10 pts but might have had 4 reb and/or 2 or 3 blocks. Just because Sean was eviscerated by the rookie wall, doesn't mean you can choose to ignore that he was damn good at times last year. Better than Yi. Yi was drafted at 6, but pundits all believed Sean would have been right up there with Yi on the draft boards if it wasn't for him getting caught with weed. Yi has had quality games this year, but not as many as Sean had last year. And where is Sean now? Yi has had a string of two games. He still needs to improve or he's going to disappear just like Sean did. People who defend Yi incessantly are more annoying than the people who incessantly bash him.
I'm just pointing out your apples vs orange logic argument. I think Swat is a good talent, still do. But now it seems the media is making him out to be a head case, don't know if it's true or not. Yi is averaging around 10 points a game in 25 minutes. That is believe or not, the league average for forwards. Someone pointed out our former superstar veteran forward RJ is only averaging 15 pts in December shooting 41% in 33 minutes. That's from being the #1 scoring option. RJ = trash? My point is Yi had some poor games and everyone including me as bashed him for it. He's improving recently when the team needed him the most. The Yi fans have a right to cheer and not wait till the end of the season. Maybe there is some correlation, when the offense focus through Yi, his offensive stats improves...
Lol, the Yi fans here remind me of the Bargnani fans. After so many bad games a few good games come and their all up in arms 'eat crow bitches!' Don't get me wrong, I want Yi to play well since it gives the team a better chance to win but get back to me after a few weeks of good games, not just 2 good games.
Some poor games?? He's had about 5 good games out of 36 I don't think you've noticed but Yi is shooting 39% from the field in the season not just 1 month His defense still sucks. 7 feet tall and he averages .06 bpg and he makes some of the weakest fouls in the NBA. He would lead the league in given And1's if there was such thing
I don't see how my argument is apples vs. oranges. Both Yi and Sean are power forwards. If anything, comparing RJ and Yi is apples and oranges. First off, RJ had a bad month, Yi has had a bad career thus far. RJ has proven he is near All-Star caliber, Yi hasn't proven anything except inconsistency yet. RJ has 41% FG? He is actually being defended. Yi clanks open 3s and jumpers. It's pathetic. Go ahead and cheer at his good games, and realize that all Nets fans cheer when Yi has a good game. Nobody is cheering when Yi plays terribly. It's funny you mention Bargnani. Last season, right after we were spanked by the Raptors by like 40 at home, I had compared Bargnani to a poor man's Toni Kukoc. Everybody was up in arms saying that Bargnani will be much better than Kukoc. I backed up my claim with their similar stats and said that Kukoc was much better than Bargnani. Nobody really responded to that and Bargnani's hype soon went away. I guess I was right? lol
