SF solution: Vince Carter?

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  1. Universe

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    I cannot tell if you are serious or not about the DH and Carter trade but we could have had Bayless but picked up Brook instead.

    I know we don't want big salaries on the roster but I'm sure we can find something better than Travis Outlaw for two 20 PPG scorers in which one is just entering their prime.
     
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    Agreed. How 'bout Sergio, Rudy, & Outlaw? Want Frye too? Webster? Please?
     
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    How about Carter and Najera for RLEC and Channing/Ike? (It works capwise.) They're not playing Najera, but he's a nice defender at forward.

    Downside: I don't want to get rid of Travis for an aging VC, but if we don't, we've got a serious logjam.

    Other Carter trades that work:
    * Carter and Dooling for RLEC and Blake (I like this one - not sure about NJ, but Blake's contract expires one year before Dooling's)

    * Carter and Simmons for RLEC, Ike, Channing and Webster (can you trade someone while they're injured?)

    In general, the only contracts that NJ have besides Devin Harris that are (a) relatively large (>$3M) and (b) longer than to the end of the season are:

    Carter ($14.7M, 4 years)
    Najera ($3.3M, 4 years)
    Dooling ($3.3M, 3 years)
    Simmons ($10M (!), 2 years [i.e., expires Summer 2010])

    They would probably be pleased to offload Sean Williams ($1.5M, 2 years) as well.

    Of those players, Dooling and Simmons are both getting around 28 mpg over the last ten games, so it's not like they're DESPERATE to unload them, and they might actually be pretty reluctant to part with Dooling.
     
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    Why would you actively seek out the sound of raucous laughter followed by a loud click?
     
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    If you could get him at a low price, sure. One way to look at it is you get a solid player at the 3 spot for up to three years and then you've got another huge ending contract that can potentially be parlayed into another player in 2012.
     
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    If that's what it takes...........hell I would throw yours in too........
     
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    Well, you'd probably have someone else throw it in.
     
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    But if they got Jerryd Bayless or Sergio Rodriguez, they'd have someone to replace Dooling. I love Dooling for his defense. Dude would definitely help us in a series against the Spurs or Hornets, which seems like the likely scenario at this point.

    Actually Jerryd would be a better fit for them than Sergio. They use Dooling as a 2 sometimes I believe.

    Steep price, but worth it IMO, considering we have Kopenen in the pipeline.
     
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    Yep, but they're looking at cap space for the LeBron sweepstakes. LeBron is a strong magnet--he's going to bring someone else with him. Perhaps Dwyane Wade or Chris Bosh?
     
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    It's not a deal that trades talent for talent. There are other dimensions to a deal.
     
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    Very good point, I'm sure Mixum would volunteer for that job ;)
     
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    Holy crap you are willing to put the future of the franchise, in the hands of Koponen after what you have seen this far over Bayless? You have severely gone off the deep end IMO. In case you weren't paying attention, Bayless was averaging like 30 points a game in the same league where Koponen was struggling to show he even belonged there.
     
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    For those paying attention, a guy called Pinnock filled in for Bayless for the final game... and scored 30 points. I wonder if the system they were running sort of helped Bayless pad his stats just a tad?

    Also for those paying attention, Bayless played almost exclusively at SHOOTING GUARD. For those paying attention, we have two rather good players ahead of Bayless at that position. I said "almost" because they did actually try Bayless at PG for a bit. It failed disastrously, so they very quickly handed the PG reins back to a more capable point: Koponen.

    It really does help to pay attention.
     
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    The only way we get rid of JB is if we get a really solid PG back. And the list is very short... in fact, I would venture there is only one name on that list...

    Harris.

    EDIT: I take that back, we could all use a parker, paul or rose. However, In terms of which teams we are dealing with I would say Harris is the only player (with a stretch) that we would want if we swapped out bayless.

    I still dont understand the fascination with Hinrich and nothing has led me to believe Conley has a solid future.
     
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    I wonder how quick the Nets would hang up the phone after that offer.

    Why would the Nets give up their two top players? Carter would maybe be moved in the right deal (even though he's been playing great this season), but I really don't see them giving up on Harris, unless it's in as lopsided a deal as you have the Blazers getting in this one.
     
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