When did RickyRubio get reinstated? Next thing we hear, Jeff Pendergraph is better than LaMarcus.. and Drew Neitzel is better than Rudy.
I am just going by what I have watched in SL, Jeter has been a better and more effective PG. I do not know if that would translate into the regular season, I actually think it would. Bayless has been underwhelming
This a post from another board and I believe states the Bayless situation better than I have been able to, thx Wizenheimer; "this summer league the primary goal, at least according to blazer brass, was to give Bayless opportunities to run the team. After 3 games, it's been pretty apparent that the team runs a lot better with Jeter as PG and Bayless at SG. Seeing Bayless, Jeter, and Ty Lawson all on the floor at the same time made it glaringly apparent what the difference was between a PG and a pretender I think the hope was that Bayless had latent PG skills that would somehow manifest themselves when he was given a team. The reality appears to be he has very little PG skills to begin with and is basically starting from scratch. Now, as everyone says, summer league proves very little. But Bayless's performance so far, coupled with last season's SL and the regular season, fairly well confirm that Bayless is a SG, not a PG. In reality, he doesn't even appear to be much of a combo guard. Obviously, there's a possibility he can develop enough PG ability to be effective. But history would say while that is a possibility, it is in no way a probability. 12 assists versus 18 turnovers is testament to that. Yes, Bayless is very young. But the Blazers will be fighting for playoff position starting in the opening game. I'm not sure they can afford very much on the job training at PG, especially when the player they are training is no PG. Right now, Portland has a SG in Bayless and they already have Roy and Rudy at that position. Portland needs another PG besides Blake. The current equation is a big concern"
All he's saying is that so far in summer league Jeter has been the better player.. which is true. Ya'll need to learn to read.
So the thread titled "Jeter>Bayless" and his first post saying "Looks that way to me, sad to say" means that? Maybe I learned reading comprehension differently.. indulge me please.
Depends on the answer to "Better at this aspect of his game" is??? JB is a SG right now. He's still not showing PG skills except for driving to the basket. But, even then, he's not showing that he's much of a consistent finisher. Goes too deep IMO. Jeter isn't as strong as JB, but shows more natural PG tendencies at truly creating easy opportunities for teammates. JB is still thinking about passing only when he's stuck. I think we should include JB in trade and get Hinrich or similar to be our starter, move Blake to the bench. Hinrich-Blake > Blake-Bayless for the next 3 years minimum!!!
Jeter + Bayless = one decent second string point guard. Neither is good right now, so saying which one is better is kind of pointless.
OK, we all agree Jeter is playing better than Bayless and is a better PG than Bayless right now. But what upsaide does Bayless really have? If Bayless is going to make it in the NBA, he'll have to do it at PG as he's too small to play SG with any hope of routine success. He's now been in the NBA working dilligently as learning PG skills and after 12 hard months his game is embarrassingly bad- against predominatly non NBA scrubs. Let's be honest- he sucks and hasn't learned a darn thing in 12 months. And his "upside blows Jeter away"??? That's whack. Now, as to Jeter, he's probably not really NBA material. Or if so, marginally. Makes me wish we'd kept Sergio and traded Bayless.
I totally agree with you on JBay style and maybe his attitude. I am from the old school, you aren’t a pt guard until you show me you are and you haven’t shown me shit. IMO let Rudy play pt guard and JBay the 2 on the second team. I think Rudy has the ability to be our top pg. JBay just doesn't seem like he will make it at pt. Regardless of what he says, or what he wants, he is just not a point guard. It is like the old saying, "He might make a point guard" but he will never be one. Heaven forbid. OH never mind there is the WNBA. magnumpi
By him saying looks that way to me, I took that to mean so far in summer league because thats where we have seen both of them play.. And I think SpanishFly saying this: is pretty self explanatory.
But what about when he said this? That makes it looks like he thinks (a) Jeter has looked better in the summer, and (b) he thinks he would be more effective in the regular season, too. Don't you think that's what that means? Ed O.
Well the same cast of SL characters have certainly played better and been more effective with Pooh at PG, so why would I or anyone else think Bayless would do better at PG in the NBA? They are working with the same guys, that shows me Bayless has been ineffective in RUNNING the team, and frankly that is excactly how he looked last season as well - no change there. Now SG on the second unit is likely a different story. IMO neither Bayless or Pooh is even a decent backup NBA PG, that suggest to me KP better get off this arse and improve the position.
First of all, they're not the same cast of characters. Jeter has been coming off of the bench so he's been playing with different people for much of the time... Bayless hasn't played much, as far as I can recall, with Padgett, who is the only guy who has successfully scored with a back-to-the-basket move this summer for the Blazers. Secondly, the team has not been more effective with Pooh at PG. The best basketball the team has played (for whatever it's worth) was the opening of the first game, and Jeter was sitting on the bench watching that. Ed O.
Jeter has looked better and more effective in the summer, I think most people can agree to that. And I dont see it as being very far fetched for him to have the opinion that Jeter would be more effective in the regular season. I know Jeter has never shown anything in the NBA, but Bayless hasn't shown much more. So to act like SpanishFly is an idiot for his opinion is ridiculous and uncalled for.
Not that many people have been playing.. And Padgett hasn't played much at all and maybe has had 2 or 3 back to the basket moves that weren't offensive rebounds. Bayless and Jeter have mostly played with the same cast of players, I think you are nit picking there.
