Warriors' sale may be finalized today (July 13)

If Ellison is indeed the new owner, what do you guys think the chances are of anyone on the current staff coming back? Is Larry Riley gone for sure? What about Stephen Silas and guys like that? I would imagine a new coach would bring in his own assistants... What about Jumping Jim Barnett and Bobby Fitzgerald?

What about Robert Rowell (lol) ?

Who goes, and who stays?

 

I still like Nelson to be the head coach this season. I think one of the problems from before was that many players were fed up playing for this franchise run by Cohan and Rowell, and perhaps Nelson sided with some of those players and did some shady stuff from this. Now that all this is behind us I would not mind seeing him stick around for this last season of his contract. I've seen plenty of much worse coaches come in.

Some possible alternatives though may be Brian Shaw from the Lakers or Lawrence Frank.

 

Cliffy, you cannot be serious. With Lee on board, its more of one guy over 6'5" and four smurfs. Nellie's idea of winning is how many funky lineups can I win with to show I'm smarter than the other guy. Not to build a long term contender. In his last go around with the W's, exactly how many youngsters has he developed? ONE. Mr. Curry fell into his lap. If not for the Wolves' general incompetence, the W's would have had Jordan Hill. He would have fallen right into Nellie's doghouse, with Randolph and Wright. Nellie has an overall disdain for traditional big guys, somehow forgetting about Mr. Russell who he played with. Plus, its not like he was solidly behind Curry at the start. He was forced into developing him because Monta got hurt and SJax got traded. Otherwise, it probably would have been a stunted year for Curry, taking a backseat to those two gunners.

No Nellie anymore.

 

I think Keith Smart did a good job when he filled in. He is NOT afraid to play the bigs. Plus, he knows the team, knows Steph Curry, and won't try to come in and change things.

You get Dunleavy in here, he'll probably try to re-invent Steph Curry's game. That would suck. I wouldn't mind giving Smart a shot.

 

Philsmith75 I think you vastly underestimate what Nelson has done. One big difference between us though is you like rookies and young players to be given starting spots, in the mold perhaps like what happened with Dunleavy jr. I like Nelson because he does not entitle his rookies and young players just because of salary or where the player was drafted. He decided who played based off merit though perhaps he was a little mire tough on the players he had really high hopes for like Randolph and maybe Curry. But even Randolph at one point last year said that his friction with Nelson made him a better player.

As far as finding and developing players I think he did a wonderful job with picking up undrafted players, forgotten players, and he's done really well on draft picks like Randolph and Curry. Just think of the players like Barnes, Morrow, Reggie Williams, Azubuike, etc. They've all come from nowhere and since playing here have made big pay-days.

Finally having fans ridicule a coach for not playing certain players or lineups is seen at all levels of team sports and amongst all team sports. I think Nelsons career success and success recently with the Warriors speaks for itself. Can we really be so mad at Nelson given the rosters and injuries he had to play with last season?

I would only get rid of Nelson if there is actually someone better to take his place, which I don't see.

 

I am all for people earning their playing time. Nothing should be handed to them. But what criteria was Nelson using with Wright and Randolph? Those guys stick in my mind because they were high draft picks who should have been developed, to do otherwise is inexcusable. Its not like they were dogging it or acted like they were entitled to their starting spots. They worked hard, never complained, yet they got bounced around as Nellie played head games, thats what I've seen. They may not have been doing what he wanted, but he did not lay it out for them. A good coach, whatever the sport, is almost always praised by the players with the, "he/she told me what I needed to do to get better and I always knew where I stood with him/her." That's not the attitude Nellie had. He did not like the players, then banished them to the doghouse without telling them straight forward what was wrong and what they had to do and how to do it. Okay, if you are playing for a championship maybe you do not have time for that, but the W's stunk and that's when you need a teacher.

The D-leaguers? That's easy, you know why? Its a no lose situation for him, they stink, not his fault, there's no expectation. They excel? Well great that's him "teaching." Morrow, Barnes, those are good stories, but those guys are only going to get you so far, their filler, where's the development of the key players, the ones that are drafted highly? Those are the guys that are the foundation for a franchise.

I summed up Morrow to a friend yesterday, "he shot lights out but he did not progress in passing, creating his own shot, dribbling, playing defense. He's max'd out now. If he could not blossom offensively in Nellie's offense he's not going to anywhere else because Nellie gives everyone the freedom to shoot whenever they are open. That's not the case in NJ with Devin Harris and Brook Lopez." That's Nellie's problem right there.

 

Here's ESPN's note:

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/features/rumors

 

Wright was pulled because his defensive rebounding has been very very weak. It's like Nate Thurmond said on abc7, if you want playing time as a big you need to establish yourself as a rebounder, and Wright never did that. Plus he's always been injured.

Randolph did not get a whole lot of minutes, or more accurately his minutes were not consistent. But he was still part of the rotation and it's hard to say he would not have played more if he were not injured for the last half of the season? He's still 20 turning 21 tomorrow and I am pretty sure Nelson was still very high on him.

All of this, he doesn't play bigs enough brought him a lot of ridicule for not playing POB "enough" before he got dumped. Fans were saying he would become a good NBA player. But he has not. I think he knows more than what he is given credit for.

Also don't forget about Dirk and Nash. He developed those two into all NBA players. I think he could have done the same with AR and Curry.

If you think of all the development from the pre-Nelson Warriors to with Nelson Warriors, I don't think there is even a comparison.

 

Steinmetz reporting that Cohan is holding up the sale in hopes of fetching a higher bid. Current bid is for over $400M. My theory is that it isn't Ellison and Cohan is waiting for Ellison to top it.

 

Marcus Thompson is reporting also that Cohan won't take anything less than 450 million.
http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2010/07/14/let-the-bidding-begin-at-450-million/

If that's the case, why did Cohan bother to hire the company to help go forth with the bidding process? This whole thing is getting out of hand. He's trying to milk every penny from the bidders now. I thought it would be a bidding war and whoever had the highest bid would get the team. Cohan would have to take it regardless of the ending bid price?

 

Wow really? Fuck Cohan.

 

Nicely put.

 

I like what Tolbert said tonight, if Cohan does not get this done he will be stuck with a fan revolt.