Chris Paul is NOT a Laker . . . FML

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  1. craigehlo

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    Re: Chris Paul is now a Laker . . . FML

    Awesome.
     
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    Doubt Paul goes to Dallas after hearing Cuban lead the charge.
     
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    It's sad that a star forcing a trade to large market is now considered "normal." I suppose it is in the post-Miami era but since the Hornets are owned by the NBA they can take a stand to stop players from threatening franchises with unreasonable trade demands.
     
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    Damn, i really wanted to see cp3 and kb24 on the same team
     
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    what's the difference between Chad Buchanan making a trade, only to have Paul Allen say "I'm not trading (Player X). Try again" and Dell Demps making a trade, only to have his ownership group say "I'm not trading (Player X). Try again." ?

    And it's not like the Commish can't do things like this. The Ted Stepien rule happened b/c ownership were making trades that disrupted the competitive balance of the league (not that I think this is one).

    As I said, I think this is more that it would be the catalyst for a ripoff of ORL for Howard (bynum + trash?) that the league would have no recourse to block. Hence, putting the kibosh on this pretty fair deal.
     
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    Its against the law. Any competent attorney can provide a good case and sue the nba. It's like having a judge you have a personal relationship with judge your criminal case. Just not constitutional. Trust me, I am a CEO and my contract clearly states I can't have ties with any other business that could compete with theirs.

    The nba should have never took the team over and just let them fail. Now hornet fans are fucked. You can bring this up on any deal. Remember this... All deals must be approved by the nba, basically giving the hornets the inside track on any deals. That means they can over bid, under bid, whatever that gives leverage to no.
     
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    Re: Chris Paul is now a Laker . . . FML

    So Paul could go to Boston if they renounce Garnett and Ray Allen, or Dallas if they renounce Terry, Marion, Kidd after losing Chandler and Butler now. I don't think either of those rosters would be contenders.

    Clippers could be interesting, although they'd be more an exciting young squad with potential then in danger of getting to the finals.

    Those three scenarios are a far cry from Paul being part of another superteam Miami style.
     
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    So they are going to void a completely fair trade for all parties? Where were they on the Gasol trade everyone was up in arms about a few years ago?
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    From Hollinger:
    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7334000/nba-lakers-better-not-making-chris-paul-trade

    *snip*

    The real, tangible effect of this is being completely overlooked by people because of an irrational hatred towards the Lakers and the perception that only they ever benefit from deals.
     
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    Re: Chris Paul is now a Laker . . . FML

    Maybe not, but if you put Dirk on a team with Paul, I could see plenty of guys wanting to go play with them.

    That's not even the point, all of those destinations would be better than New Orleans and the Hornets will end up with nothing to show for Paul instead of 3 NBA players that can actually play.
     
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    they didn't have the leverage then. I guarantee you if 15 of the 29 owners could've nixed that trade, they would've, right or wrong.

    The third paragraph is what I'm talking about. ORL dumping Howard for basically nothing to team with K*be and CP3 is what the league/owners are worried about. But they don't have the power to stop that one, because as long as the two owners agree it's a deal (and falls within CBA rules, of course).

    In this case, the ownership of NOH doesn't want to make the deal. Sucks for CP3 in this case, unless they can figure out a way to get ownership behind them.
     
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    Maybe the NBA didn't want to see Chris Paul become a rapist or married to a Kardashian.
     
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    New Orleans fans are the ones that will truly suffer. And we say we have it bad.
     
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    They wouldn't win. The Hornets are a franchise and bound to the rules of their legal contract. Those contracts give a high level of oversight and control to franchising corporation, in this case the NBA.
     
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    Where is the Players Union in all of this?
     
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    You're missing the point. Any company in the united states are bound to our constitution. Doesn't matter if there is some contact in the nba that allows for this to happen. You cannot do this. 100% fact and I will bet big dollars for anyone that thinks otherwise.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    The NBA is an inclusive enterprise unto itself. Its teams function as franchise members of a monopolistic cartel that doesn't operate like a widget making company -- they set their own bylaws and rules and punish member franchises when those bylaws are broken. Trades are more like one employee in one department moving to another wing of the building than moving to a true competitor.

    Irrespective of the "legality," I think you're completely blinded if you think the Hornets were getting fucked in this deal; Dell Demps was making a move to make them more competitive in a year from now, not less so, and given Paul's knees he was probably about to ship a ticking time bomb off to LA for real assets.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I challenge you to show me one constitutional amendment being broken here. Go on, I'll wait here.
     
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    You are bringing the constitution into this? Wow.
     

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