Marquis Teague

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  1. truebluefan

    truebluefan Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    Nice pickup for the Bulls. Potential long term back up. Will play minutes until Rose is back.

    Was suppose to be better than his brother. His brother can play.
     
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    My biggest source of information on College ball were the draft threads on RealGM, so I've never had a dog in this race.

    That said......seems pretty good to me.

    In terms of body type and athleticism he seems like a Rondo/Terry type (although obviously not proven to be as good)

    In style of play he seems to be similar to his brother and maybe Kyle Lowry.

    He was one of the most sought after recruits out of high school, and played well with other NBA caliber players on a stacked Kentucky team, and seems to have a good attitude and work ethic.

    So I can definitely see where GarPax were going here.

    Of course, who knows what he'll do next season.

    But apparently his most NBA ready skill is his ability to get to the rim and take players off the dribble. So while I don't see him playing with DRose much, it'll be nice to know that when we *really* need that other player who can create his own shot and break traps, we now have that guy.

    Of course, it'd be great if that guy was also 6'6 with a 3 point shot and ready to contribute from day 1, but that person isn't coming through the door with the 29th pick.
     
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    I dont hate the pick but i dont know much about him either. I was really expecting the shooter in lamb/barton that i was hearing about but this does give us that 2nd handler that can create for us.
     
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    I know at 29 in a weak draft you are pretty much at BPA mode but Hinrich rumors and drafting a point make me nervous about D.Rose and his health.
     
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    I don't think the pick signals anything with regards to this.

    There's no way Teague should be relied upon to consistently lead the team his rookie season, so we have to look for someone else.

    I really doubt Thibs and GarPax drafted him with the idea that he'd be our starting PG the first half of this season.

    And it really does look like Teague was BPA at #29.
     
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    transplant Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Jeez Rosenthall, when I saw this thread down the list, I thought "Hey, maybe I can add something intelligent for a change." Then I read your post and, nope, I have nothing to add.
     
  7. Denny Crane

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    Why not play him and see if he can develop into a quality SG?

    All he really needs to do is bring the ball up court and get it to Rip.
     
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    such sweet thunder Member Staff Member Moderator

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    The pick better signal trouble with Rose. I don't see how you guys can logically square your draft analysis. It doesn't add up to me, unless you approach the draft with the assumption that Rose will never play again at an elite level.

    This was a very deep draft in terms of the quality of prospects available at the 29th pick. Both Doron Lamb and Jeff Taylor, two players who I view as having at least being potential starters at the two and three were still available. The Bulls are now concerned about their salary structure, which is fine. But then you have to find players that can contribute in a starting capacity on rookie scale deals. Teague isn't that if Rose is healthy.

    I have no idea what you guys could mean by potential long-term backup. Teague could only be a backup for four years, and then he will leave in free agency if he's any good. And I agree with the rest of you that you can't count on Teague to be a starter next season. What gives? How can you make any sense of this pick?

    FUBAR.
     
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    Why can't Teague be the starter next year?

    I do think that at this point, he may be a decent enough player at a rookie scale wage. This player profile is the new CBA.
     
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    such sweet thunder Member Staff Member Moderator

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    It should be our expectation that Teague will start next season. He should at least be Taj Gibson "good" if the Bulls used the pick on him, instead of on a position of need, assuming that Rose isn't troubled by long term issues. I watched a ton of college ball leading up to the draft and I never saw anything in Teague that screamed NBA-caliber. He's certainly the right size and quick enough -- he may have been the most athletic point guard prospect in the draft. The rest of his makeup was a mixture of college level mediocrity.

    I have a tough time with the Bulls drafting him in front of Deron Lamb who did everything, except attack the hoop (and he wasn't bad at attacking the hoop) at an above-average NBA level. Lamb was just a below average athlete.

    The Bulls have a track record and that's worth something. I will be thrilled if I am wrong. I'm just not particularly optimistic about the fact that the Bulls drafted what appears to be a backup point guard and didn't move Deng, when they seem to be looking to cut costs. I understand that the Bulls may have a budget, but if they are operating under a budget, I expect them to make the moves necessary to compete with that budget.
     
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    From todays press conference
     
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    Lets be realistic here.

    Given we avoid the LT like the plague, the only hope is the guys on rookie deals play like quality vets. As you pointed out, taj turned out just fine for a #29 pick.

    My expectations for Teague are about what we got from CJ. Meh and all.

    In theory, he'll have some good experience when Rose comes back.
     
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    such sweet thunder Member Staff Member Moderator

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    I didn't use the word expectation correctly. I don't expect him to be as good as CJ next season, not by a longshot. I think I was trying to express that given the contours of the Bulls roster and salary structure he's going to have to be a surprisingly good pick to have any value.
     
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    I'll reserve judgment until he gets at least a minute of PT.

    Since Gar took over, the draft picks and personnel moves have been quite good, IMO. I assume interviewing the player is a big part of it.
     
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    Agree with SST that Teague won't be the starter out of the gate and that the plan will be to bring him along at a pace that Teague's play will determine.

    Sure hope he develops quickly because none of the short-term vet fixes I've heard fill me with unbridled confidence.
     
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    Never thought I'd see the day when you would make an in-Pax-we-trust argument while I was taking shots at the franchise. :pimp: I'm not confidently in opposition to your line of thinking, mind you. PaxDorf certainly are on a run and deserve some latitude until we see Teague suit up.
     
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    As near as I can tell, Pax was booted upstairs after punching the last coach, and it's been Gar Foreman who's been making sound moves. Not only was Taj an outstanding pick for a #29, I would give him a lot of credit for taking Noah instead of Spencer Hawes or someone not even that good.

    I don't think he's been laying the bullshit on us as well. He's not afraid to let it be known they were shopping Deng, that the team wasn't a contender at the trade deadline, etc. Unfortunately, he wasn't able or willing to do anything about it.
     
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    Late to this but Teague's celling is an above average starter and lamb's celling likely to be a below average starter/6th man IMHO. I don't like anything else I am hearing this summer but this seemed like a decent move to me.
     
  20. rosenthall

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    I see it the same way.

    At the very least we finally have another guy who can break traps, take people off the dribble and get to the rim. If nothing else he'll come in handy when good teams are turning up the heat on Derrick.

    The biggest concern is that he might not be reliable until his second contract.
     

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