The upcoming off season

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  1. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I found it interesting to see that a guy who is at around 10 per (Singler) was considered a good player.
     
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    Tell me about it. Monroe an allstar? Maybe he changed his name or something
     
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    He's a good player, but in terms of what he can actually do on the court, he's not LMA. If he's the best player the Blazers get back in a trade along with some scrubs, well, that's a dumb idea to me.
     
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    I like Monroe, But if you are giving up arguably a top 5 NBA PF, you should get more back.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    How about 6 years of youth and $10M in cap space? What would you want, a pick too?
     
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    5 years of youth and a lesser player. How does losing a team's best player for an unproven guy who plays a different position make the team better next season? That's the purpose of this thread, right?
     
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    According to PER and usage rate, is Monroe really a lesser player? You get cap room and depth as well.
     
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    Yes and some. Monroe will never be as good as Aldridge. We get pissed at the d we lack; just wait when these scraps come to pdx. There is a reason that Detroit are a bottom feeder with their talent.
     
  10. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    and I'm not sure 10 million in capspace helps Portland as much as others do.

    Not that the player on the Pistons is a bum, far from it, but it's not necessarily the best they could do.
     
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    Well hickson has a better per than batum. Shall we trade batum too? Lets get the other Lopez for batum cause Lopez has a better per
     
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    According to coaches and players around the league, LMA is an All-Star, and should have been one 3 years in a row now.

    Based on PER, Hickson is a better player than Kevin Love.

    What does cap room do this summer? Who exactly do you bring in as a FA who is going to be a 20/9 player who is the #1 focus of the opposing defense?

    Thomas Robinson? Haha
     
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    Love's been hurt all year. Congrats to Hickson. Oh boy!
     
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    I talked about a Monroe for Aldridge swap in a thread earlier and got a similar response but it's still a close to realistic trade scenario that I think benefits us with getting close talent and a big chunk of extra space this offseason. Advanced stats have them very close, PER, WS, O and D Rating, they're obviously very different players in terms of style and what areas of the game they impact but a deal that's realistic in terms of talent that could open up a bunch of cap room is very far from 'The worst trade proposal ever' or just about one posters dislike for a certain player.

    The scenario I see making us an obviously better team next year and going forward is a mid season trade of:
    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=accmxpq

    Offseason let Hickson walk and renounce all the scrubs (Nolan, Price, Babbitt, Maggette etc), leaving us with ~25mil for cap space. Sign Millsap to a 4 year ~45mil deal starting at about 10.5mil. Then address the bench with Jarrett Jack and Carl Landry for deals around 3 years 19mil each starting close to 7mil and decending to give them a little more than the MLE for more incentive to sign away from GSW.

    Lillard/Wes/Batum/Millsap/Monroe with a Jack/Singler/Landry/Leonard bench imho puts us in a better position next year than keeping Aldridge and trying to fill our needs at starting center and off the bench with only ~13 million in cap space.
     
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    Yes we should trade Batum for Lopez, that would be amazing. Too bad we'd be laughed off the phone.
     
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    Aldridge for Monroe would be great too. Almost identical stats, Monroe's a way better defender, and is 5 years younger. Not a hard decision for me at all.
     
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    I think there are 30 NBA coaches(including Monroe's) that would rather have LA as their starting PF instead if Monroe my friend.
     
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    I'll go a step further and would say that if the Pistons hired Monroe as a player/coach....... Monroe would start LA as well!
     
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    And I think there are 30 NBA coaches and GMs who would rather have Monroe at C than LMA. We wouldn't be trading for Monroe to play him at PF.
    One of our two biggest weaknesses is C - this trade would address that and then some.
     
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    that's for sure! but you are "infamous" for a variety of reasons
     

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