OT - Clippers Owner Donald Sterling to GF -- Don't Bring Black People to My Games

Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

Will they need to admit the actual recordings as evidence though? This is all public record now. The recordings may have originally been illegal, but it's not like the NBA made them. These recordings are in the public domain for everybody to hear (which is the whole problem). Why would a jury not be allowed to read, say, a transcript of them printed in the New York Times? Seems like it'd be admissible to me.

Seems to me that the real bone of contention is whether the league has the ability under their constitution to give Sterling the boot.

*shrug* I'm not a lawyer, though.

 

Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

What is the exact law in California in regards to tape recording?

Also, had read somewhere, maybe here, someone saying that she had a ton of recordings, and that it was with his consent, because she was helping him write a book, but that could be complete bullshit.

 

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Evidence must be obtained legally. Newspaper clippings don't count.

 

Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

Before u tape anyone, you must have them in record acknowledging they are being recorded. If not, it cannot be used.

There is a loophole though. Anything left on an answering machine or text message can be used though.

 

Re: What I'd like to hear Silver say

You're right - it's not illegal to say racial slurs, but it's always socially unacceptable. It is, however, socially acceptable to express approval of gay marriage in the right context, which is voting. The NBA's name would not be jeopardized if an owner merely voted to keep same-sex marriage. The NBA's business interest wouldn't be harmed much if at all by an owner voting for same-sex marriage.

What may be more debatable is if Sterling said "I don't want gay people at my games." Then the NBA may be in hot water, but it still probably wouldn't be as bad for him. Whether that's right or wrong is subject to debate, although I personally don't think so. America's history of racism against Blacks, Sterling's alleged history of racism, and the fact that the NBA is comprised mostly of Black players make racism more of an issue for the NBA than homophobia.

 

Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

I think he is a bad person, but getting that punishment for saying what he said in the privacy of his own damn home is ridiculous, when NBA players break actual laws and get nothing more than a slap on the wrist.

If you think his punishment fits his crime then I think you are wrong.

I, for one, will be extremely interested to see the penalty handed down to the next black player who breaks the law. Also anxious to see the NAACP come out and make a statement commending the commish for his harsh penalty

 

Re: What I'd like to hear Silver say

But here's the thing. I bet he has more blacks working for his organization that any other race. So it wasn't "I don't want any blacks at my game". It was "I don't want you seen with blacks at the game".

 

Re: What I'd like to hear Silver say

I just hope that if he is going to be a tough commish, that he is as tough on the players as well.

 

Re: What I'd like to hear Silver say

Well we all hope his reign won't be as corrupt as our last one.

 

Re: What I'd like to hear Silver say

A conversation between a man and his girlfriend in an isolated location isn't a private matter? I bet most of you can recall conversations or jokes you told that you are glad didn't get recorded and put out for all to see.

I think most of you get my point. The saying goes "bad facts make bad law." Sterling's comments were very bad facts and he deserves what he gets. Only time will tell regarding the rest.

And Eastoff, I do have the right to voice my opinion on this topic as it does relate to the content of the thread. I'm sorry if you don't like what I said, but fortunately you don't get to decide who must go to the OT forum.

The true irony here is that Sterling will make the most money out of this if he just shuts up, lets the league sell the team at their peak price and takes the money and runs. In a way, Silver is giving him a way to max out his investment--an unfortunate consequence.

 

Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

I don't think this is as much about law breaking than it is about a racist being in so much power in the blackest professional sports league in the country.

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Re: Poll: Will Sterling be owner of the Clippers at the beginning of next season

Yep and he actually has a good case too.

 

Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

I agree with Sterling on this.

I wouldn't sell my team either. Does anyone seriously believe that no other owner in the NBA has spewed a racist statement in the privacy of their own home or to their golfing buddies? Every damn person any of us knows has made a bigoted comment at least once.

I hope all of you demanding his head have hurricane proof glass on your houses.

 

Re: What I'd like to hear Silver say

But both comments are equally offensive and still socially unacceptable. The fact that he has more Blacks working for his organization isn't necessarily a positive if he sees them as nothing but property that can make him money.

 

Re: What I'd like to hear Silver say

Sorry you are absolutely incorrect. If he owned them, he wouldn't have to give them a salary. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if "blacks" working for him make more than any other nationality, being the players, coach and executives.

 

Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

I can demand his head in much the same way where if I said something similar, I could expect a similar result in my job.

But hey look, Blazers being up 3-1 and playing fun basketball couldn't get you to be active on the board, but a race based ruling sure as shit could!

 

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