OT - Clippers Owner Donald Sterling to GF -- Don't Bring Black People to My Games

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Will Sterling be owner of the Clips on Nov. 1?

  1. yes, he'll still be owner (Sterlng Wins, at least temporarily)

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  2. no, he'll be ousted (Sterling Loses)

    8 vote(s)
    25.0%
  3. no, but he'll make an exorbitant amount of dough in the sale (Sterling basically wins)

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  1. SlyPokerDog

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    Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA

    NBPA VP Roger Mason Jr. said "all players" were going to boycott tonight's games if Adam Silver didn't drop the hammer on Donald Sterling.
     
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    I was hoping Mason Jr. was just going to hop on the mic and yell, "HOW U?!?!!"
     
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    BNM and others... I suggest you read this before you think this is a slam dunk. Billions are at stake.

    I knew this would be a problem.
     
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    OT - Clippers Owner Donald Sterling to GF -- Don't Bring Black People to My G...

    Interesting... So you say it's hard to win, but should be no problem for the nba to justify forcing sterling out, losing millions in capital gains? It seems you haven't been to court a lot. Sadly, I have for various reasons. I've seen the California court system work. It's not as cut and dry as you think.

    I have a judgement for a company to stop selling a copy cat brand and a multi million judgement. They are still selling and we've spent millions to keep trying to shut them down. Our judgement is 3 years old.

    Guess who wins? The attorneys!
     
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    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    Re: How would you protest?

    Why is there no brown in that^^^!!!???
     
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    Re: OT - Clippers Owner Donald Sterling to GF -- Don't Bring Black People to My G...

    In general, it's hard for plaintiffs to win because they have the burden of proving their case, but it's even harder for racial discrimination cases. Sterling's potential case is not a racial discrimination lawsuit. It seems to be mostly a contacts lawsuit. I go to law school out here in California, so I have some familiarity with the 9th Circuit and state law here. But I wasn't saying Sterling has no chance to win or get some sort of settlement from the NBA. I was only responding to your comments of whether the NBA set a precedent for punishing owners who don't support gay marriage.

    As for whether the NBA can force Sterling to sell, I haven't read the NBA constitution and I'm not too familiar with their bylaws. But I would hazard a guess that Sterling's comments are severely detrimental to the NBA's financial interests and the NBA can legally disassociate themselves with Sterling. And when considering the comments along with his questionable history, the NBA can probably also say they don't see him to be fit as an owner from a character perspective. The case is a matter of contract law and a unique case as far as I can tell (I don't recall the NBA ever trying to kick out an owner). While I agree that litigation may complicate matters, I see the NBA winning on this one.

    Sterling also won't be losing out on capital gains because everyone from sponsors, to celebrities, to players and coaches have said they will not continue to support the Clippers as long as Sterling is owner. The NBA is actually probably doing Sterling a favor by forcing him to sell.
     
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    Or just do a black plaque with black lettering.
     
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    Re: OT - Clippers Owner Donald Sterling to GF -- Don't Bring Black People to My G...

    You can find the language of the 3/4 rule that Silver cited in the news conference in several articles on the WWW. The sports attorney that SlyPokerDog has been quoting appears in several articles I've read. The gist is the 3/4 rule is written so ambiguously that Sterling will absolutely have a case.

    My sense of things is that you cannot blame Silver for doing anything less than throwing the full extent of everything at his disposal at Sterling. And it's not his fault if the owners don't vote on that (perhaps) dubious 3/4 rule.

    I want to see the guy gone as much as anyone, but I'm not sure there's a clean and clear cut way to make it happen.

    What is clear is the commissioner has the power to ban him for life and fine him the $2.5M.

    All that said, it wouldn't surprise me if they do vote to oust him and even that he chooses to go quietly.

    Nice to see you back, too :)
     
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    Ha ha. That's what you say when you are patronizing someone doofus. Did he pat you on the head too?
     
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    OT - Clippers Owner Donald Sterling to GF -- Don't Bring Black People to My G...

    Capital gains is a huge loss bro. Even if sponsors pull out, he gets revenue sharing, still huge money. Think about it like this... Milwaukee had shit corporate sponsors, yet still was able to sell the team for 700 mil. Let's say the team drops to 700 mil. He bought it for 12 mil. That's 698 mil of taxable capital gains.

    33% tax is like 240+ mil in taxes. If he died, then the team is given to his children. The gains from death to sale is only counted. Maybe 13-20 mil at most. If he gets retribution for lost tax gains, and add punitive damages, that could be a 1 Bil plus settlement, only adding to that spineless prick's net worth.

    So as much as I would love to see him forced out, the businessman in me thinks it's going to be a huge legal shitstorm
     
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    Silver on his press conference said something very specific.

    "Let me be clear that this ruling is on Donald Sterling and Donald Sterling only"

    This after someone asked if Donald Sterling's ban will filter down to his children.
     
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    Re: OT - Clippers Owner Donald Sterling to GF -- Don't Bring Black People to My G...

    I'm not too familiar with the 3/4s rule, but I would imagine 3/4s of the owners would vote him out. With all the revenue sharing that goes on, the owners will be affected if the NBA takes a hit, and it will if Sterling is still owner. Racism aside, he just seems like an overall douche.

    Thanks man, it's good to be back!
     
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    So maybe the wife will take over the team. How funny would it be if the wife and the girlfriend were in on this together and that was the plan all along.

    Never underestimate a woman scorned. Especially when there is a billion dollars at stake.

    I'd post the Dr Evil pinky to crook of mouth but I'm on my phone.
     
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    Re: OT - Clippers Owner Donald Sterling to GF -- Don't Bring Black People to My G...

    True, but the Clippers are arguably the most exciting team in the league and one of the more valuable franchises. So if the players refuse to play and/or people stop supporting the team, the NBA as a whole will take it financially. Moreover, some people/sponsors will just stop supporting the NBA altogether if Sterling isn't gone. Sterling having anything to do with the NBA = less profitability for everyone. It's in the owners' best interests financially to vote him out.
     
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    No, I already ripped off an article that discussed this.
     
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    Re: OT - Clippers Owner Donald Sterling to GF -- Don't Bring Black People to My G...

    If the players refuse to play, they will do without pay. They are breaching their agreement with the NBA and could be fined as well. The nba did everything it legally can. The players cannot refused to play for the Clippers, no matter how badly they want to.
     
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    Re: OT - Clippers Owner Donald Sterling to GF -- Don't Bring Black People to My G...

    Read this: http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports....-angeles-clippers-not-for-sale-so-whats-next/
     

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