JUCO transfers at LB last minute, and 3 star guys after we struck out on everyone else is not much consolation here. Our program is to good to be recruited this poorly on the D line and LB spots. I mean wasn't Pellum a LB coach for like 20 years? So none in the pipeline after all that? Come on! I will say Neal is killing it and has every year! Unlike Mariota, we knew he was the goods and just massively underrated, these last two week guys discussed now are alternates of the alternates, hardly the same! As for Canton he's a top tier DE not a NG or DT where morons from Bleachers think he'll end up playing for us! I hope Kane can raises some Kane at the LB and maybe they'll let Hollins play there too, cause that kid can flat out fly! You know I'm not impressed with Aiken or Pellum as recruiters or as coaches and I wonder how many years you'll give them till you might also think the same? Bend don't break has cost us 2 championships and a soft national label!
We only have one DT/NT position spot to recruit for, and it wasn't a priority. We offered a slew of 5 stars, none were interested so we settled on Manu. Balducci has been acceptable but not great. We can't even build off of Kiko with our LB recruiting apparently and have missed out on 20 targets, more worrying was the the mostly shit play this year from them. Pellum obviously has more on his plate and needs to dedicate his position recruiting to someone else. Aiken has been making big bucks, next year is the priority year we'll see if he can do anything.
waaaaaaaah! Oregon only finished #2, we suck! The coaches can't coach & waaaah waaaaah waaaaaaah! good grief STOMP
I agree STOMP, and for the record our defense was not responsible for that loss. Anyone who thinks that really doesn't understand the game. Our WRs dropped several key passes on third downs and left the D hung out to dry. By the fourth they had simply been on the field too long and ran out of gas. It was exactly what happened to Bama. It really sucked, to be sure, and OSU fans are just terrible people to boot, but with our D and Marcus we beat them 7/10 times. We blew the game and it was on our WRs, who dropped too many balls; if you want to cry that's what you should be crying about. I mean, wtf? Our D forced 4 turnovers!!!! SMH. On another note, I ran into some Hawaiians in the airport in Dallas on the way back from the natty. They told me that Rex Manu is the real deal, that THEY think he's better than Canton K, and that we weren't going to get ground down like that once he was in the lineup because, it seems, he's a freakish athlete and a monster in the middle. Here's hoping....
Interesting story about Kyler Murrey. Wish they had some hard sources to support this. http://www.oregonlive.com/recruiting/index.ssf/2015/01/oregon_ducks_have_shot_at_flip.html
many months back Murray was my biggest QB hope, but that hope is gone. Of course he's been tweaking the A&M fan base with UT flirtations lately (rumors are that his famous UTAM alum father may have been hired as a QB consultant), but there has been no indication via social media or otherwise that KM has been in contact with Oregon lately. Probably just ESPN and the O being tabloids passing this baseless stuff along to get hits from the rabid Duck fans STOMP
Stomp, I have issue with only three coaches Pellum, Aiken and one who got retired Aliotti, all on the defensive side of the ball. All of them have major problems recruiting, and who they are recruiting only reinforces their schematic flaws found in that D 3-4 flex prevent they like to pass off as a D. Please understand, if we had Lockie this this year and not Marcus our defense would have been exposed. Our defense looked better then they were because teams got behind so quickly to our offense they had to make poor decisions to get back in the game and our D capitalized on that. OSU did not have to play from behind and opportunistic turned into beaten down. I will say the second half of the season was a night and day difference on the D line but that had more to do with Buck, AA and Balducci's talent then Aiken's coaching. Pellum is going to be in way over his head next year and will be exposed without the cushion Marcus and the offense provided him this year. Oregon is going to see a bunch of slow methodical drives next year in between the tackles where clock management for the other team will be paramount and tiring our D will be key! So this is exactly where recruiting comes in, because now when we're running in our hockey tempo pace subs we don't have the talent we need to match the athletes USC, MSU, or any top 10 schools will throw our way. That's where you see the gouging runs that Elliott did to us all game long. Buck and AA were tired and Balducii was getting run over. Thus why getting DT's is sooooooo important! Now you can say "Waaaaaaaay" or whatever child like words that seem amazingly odd for a middle aged guy like you to use, but it still wont change our depth or the perception that Oregon can be run over between the tackles. That's Pellum's and Aiken's job to correct and they like Aliotti have proven to be the wrong recruiters for that job. Now if those FACTS bother you, who cares!
MJA, No one is blaming the D for losing that game, OSU controlled the clock and Marcus was without 60% of his go to receivers and down field speed. Their secondary jammed us and took the passing game away, leaving a stacked box to attack the run. It was Stanford all over again!
Apparently our superise official is for Unranked DT Gary Baker, and are poised to steal him away from his other offered schools of, San diego state, new mexica, fresno state, and utah state. He has flashes in his tape, but honestly who doesn't in a highlight reel. We just won the Rose bowl, and made it to the championship, and i am un- enthusiastic about this in general considering the need we'll have after balducci leaves soon.
All the best DTs are in SoCali, Texas, or southeast(Khalil McKenzie was a gimme for Tennessee given family ties). They wanna stick close to home(which blows) due to that they're good long distance runners and those schools usually have been recruiting them since their sophmore year. Oregon is going after some 2017 elite Utah D-linemen, so that can change. Also, Aiken just had his best year yet on the D-line. Also, Fotu Leiato has committed to Oregon.
Aiken had his best year? Really? Do explain? He didn't recruit any of those guys on this current D line and AA played his best just in time to go pro which was the last half of this year. How much of that do you think is Aiken's doing vs. pure talent? Please realize he's being paid more as a D line coach than Pellum is as the D coordinator or Neal is as the secondary coach or Frost is as the offensive coordinator yet all the above kick his ass in recruiting. Aiken has recruited to date Canton, Carlberg, Manu, Maloata, Jelks and Hollins... 6 players, 1 5 star, and the rest 3 in two years. This is a man with an NFL D line background, you'd think top D lineman would love to learn from his next level experience. So next you're going to say distance right? Well Neville Gallimore is from Canada going to Oklahoma, Josh Sweat from Virginia to FSU, I'd say Oregon is a bit better then those programs so clearly recruiting matters and who's doing it! Beckner Jr. in Missouri same state as Ofodile didn't even want to visit skipping us for a new LSU D coordinator a job Pellum didn't get a second call back for! Dillan Mack who's a beast expressed interest and never heard from us, have to say that's a ton of talent not counting Green, South, Daniel to whiff on. This while winning the Pac -12 the Rose Bowl and the Heisman and playing for the national championship. I truly believe the reason Canton is here and early is the coaching staff told him AA was going pro and he'd get to play instantly. If this defense ranks over 100 worst next year and Oregon loses over 3 games, this conversation wont matter, both these coaches will be gone. Personally I think this is the best thing that could happen for Oregon. Our offensive genius should no longer overshadow our defensive ineptness! A&M and Auburn have both hired new defensive coordinators and recruiting studs to go along with their high octane spread offenses, so should Oregon. Pellum nor Aiken will make Oregon elite on that side of the ball! And yes this all starts with recruiting and having depth! Anybody think if we lost Buckner to injury our D line would survive next year? What if we lost Buckner and Balducci like we lost Fisher and Johnstone this year? Greatwood recruits and we survive just look at this class as an example. No one can say the same on the D. Think good D coaches don't provide kick ass recruits, wait for Cowart and Jefferson both to go to Auburn to reconnect with Muschamp. The Oregon of the SEC!
LOLOLOLOLOLOL did you just use the example of Sweat going from Chesapeake VA to Tallahassee FL as an example of distance? That's like 775 miles or an hour and a half plane ride.
And yes many of us wish UO could recruit like FSU DLine coach did. We all looooooong for our DLine to play the way FSU did Oh wait... Coaching is require too right?
And please please please please let's Model the way aTm runs their program. "Superior" recruiting classes with consistent 3 to 4 loss seasons won't cause bitch fests in here haha!
Oh oh this is fun too... John Neal (who is a hell of a coach) has pulled exactly one 4* player in the last 3 classes (yep I even gave him the benefit of one more class than Aiken has) and that 4 star was a flip last second in Amadi.
Last 3 classes. Springs and Tyree. Umadi doesn't really count if you go by composite, only one site has him listed as a 4 star. 4 stars 2QB 2 DB 4OL 3 Hybrid RB/WR Athe 2 RB 4 WR 1 DL 2 LB We've only had 21 so far in the last 3 classes with 4 or higher star rankings. If we land Merritt it will be 22. Maybe Uluave if the news is true, but I myself am not that optimistic that we will pull him from UCLA.
Ah I tend to just look at Rivals. Springs was a high 3* on there. And Robinson's down as recruited by Aliotti and Tyrell was Aliotti, and Pellum.
The distance for Sweat from Virginia to FSU is 100 miles difference = any top D line talent from LA to Eugene was my point. Have you ever been to Tallahassee? It's far from the allure and thoughts of South Beach, trust me on that. I lived in Florida and Tallahassee wasn't the go to city for sure, sort of like Salem is to Portland. As for the Noles, they kick ass on D recruiting and put three+ players a year on that side of the ball in the pros every year. They also have a couple national championships and last year their D wasn't to shabby and when Ward won their other national championship, their defense was epic! That was also before they relied solely on a basketball conference for their worth. It's recruiting there and the right people doing it. As for Neal his secondary has been the strength of our D for years. We are also two to three deep there and he recruited Springs, Daniels and the Robinson's in the last three years. Players like Springs and McGraw threating to de-commit because Neal was offered another job, you don't hear that about Aiken do you? Hell our secondary players are committing with the sole reason to play for Neal! Aiken and Pellum can't even get top DT or LB recruits on campus to visit one of the best sport facility schools in the country. Beckner Jr., Gallimore, Mack, Payne, Jefferson to name a few...... I'm not talking signing, just come see our school! So is it a shock that 247 is reporting Helfrich to meet with Houston tonight? This is a fact, Texas A&M and Auburn have brought in heavy hitters both as recruiters and D coordinators to make their teams D's legit. TCU another up tempo team already has a hard hitting, great tackling in space defensive team, and they'll be ranked top 3 coming into next year. I'm not sure why you and Stomp are both so opposed to Oregon brining in a talented D coordinator and recruiter who can only help our school get better? Our team D is ranked in the 100's and even worse on 3rd down proficiency. These are facts! Aren't you guys tired of the nation calling your team soft in between the tackles? You both may not like the message but it doesn't make it untrue!
