2015 Football Commits and Recruiting News

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  1. Wheels

    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I read rumors on 247 that his dad wants him to redshirt. Im Not getting my hopes up, but the one year stop gap while any of the QBs get seasoning and some game action for Mahalak if that's the case would be great.
     
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    I think he does. He's proven and more athletic than our other QBs. Also, Murray's dad wants Kyler to redshirt from what I understand. He'd be our Russell Wilson and keep us in the playoff hunt

    Also, more people are starting to think he may go the Longhorns. Better for him to go there than to TAMU.
     
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    Adams would be great since I'm not sure any of our other QB Lockie-Alie-Griffin-Mahalak-Waller would be ready to start in any consistent way.
     
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    Stomp,

    Let me get this straight you're saying, a paid employee for 247 Justin Hopkins, who represents their site and name brand is slandering a 5 star athlete Canton Kaumatule by implying he couldn't get into Stanford academically? Putting not only himself and his company up for a liable suit but potentially his reputation and employment too, and you think his sources don't exist? Wow! Is that what your telling this board? Perhaps your implying it's Stanford that's leaking this "SOUR GRAPES", is that what your saying? I would think Stanford would be much more diplomatic than this, while having this kids brother on their team now! But your info is top notch right? :beatinto: You have nothing to lose by looking like an anonymous MOUTH every day here, however what your implying about 247 and their staff a site "YOU PAY FOR" is quite a judgment. That and the fact of you judging others seems so out of character! :lol:

    As for Aliotti, think what you want, asked to retire with dignity , upset he didn't' get the head coaching job, or whatever, after two back to back Stanford losses and one to Arizona plus being pushed around by LSU and Auburn, the defense obviously needed a change. This change also mirrored the Oregon brand climbing into elite status over the last 4 years and where Aliotti's defense wasn't going. Now do I think Pellum was the smart hire for his replacement ? No! From recruiting to DEFENSIVE SCHEME to overall teaching, I think he was a convenient and known hire, not the right one. I think Ed Orgeron was the guy we should have gone after. He can recruit like a mad man most IMPORTANTLY and can teach a solid D. Two traits Oregon massively needs.

    BTW- Sort of odd not to see Aiken cited for Baker or Cumberlander's recruiting being he's the D line coach, don't ya think?

    Chinander in under a year has done more for recruiting than Aiken.

    247 reports:

    "Chinander, or "Chins" to the inner circle has been given credit for the commitments of Canton Kaumatule, Gary Baker, Fotu Leiato, Dylan Kane and Gus Cumberlander. You could make an argument for him to be rewarded with the commitments of Ugo Amadi, Rex Manu and Paris Bostick. Not only has Chinander helped recruit the linebackers and the state of Hawaii, he's been pivotal to helping sign one of Oregon's best defensive line classes ever."

    Also timely Oregon is seriously considering going to a 4-3 on D! One that gives the power back to the D line! Hmmmmmm......... Something top DT's who didn't come to Oregon over the years felt was very important and lacking, you know being used correctly! This new D scheme will vastly aid our tragic recruiting with DT's and let us target a different type of LB. Both major positives for the Ducks!

    I have never rooted against the DUCKS so knock that crap off! I'm realistic in saying if the D can't stop the run against elite teams they'll lose. If they lose to many games coaches will be replaced. This program is on a level where it's accountable yearly to the resources for success the Ducks have been given. Clearly even you can figure that out! I've also said that Marcus has made Duck fans unrealistic about how truly good or bad our D is by supplying them with big leads to watch our D just not lose the game rather than win it for us.

    Now using OSU as an example, I didn't say the D lost that game, I said they were run over and tired without adequate D line substitutes to keep players like AA, Balducci and Buck fresh. Our D scheme was simply wrong and our LB's couldn't stop the inside run. This is clearly a recruiting and depth issue! Oregon hasn't recruited well on the D line for years, how hard is that to understand? We all know that Marcus had 30 % of his weapons to use for down the field speed and talent at the receivers. I'd also interject had we used our TE's way more often that OSU LB's wouldn't have been able to stack the box and come after Marcus the way they did. To this date I can't figure out why it's so hard for our coaches to use our talented TE's more often then they do?
     
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    I'm not sure what's going on with Iman, it's seems odd to take a final week before recruiting ends visit to a school not in your top six! This either doesn't happen my guess, or Neal knows something he's not sharing.

    If Merritt commits do we lose Lovette?
     
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    Not odd at all. Oregon for years, has had Coaches do recruit by regions, which at times wasnt the position coach.
     
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    He's been informed of this fact repeatedly but forges on to believe what he wants to regardless. I don't know how many times I've told him I don't subscribe to 247 but thats another thing that just won't stick. With all the memory retention of a spaghetti colander, it's amazing he can find his computer to bless us with his repeated misconceptions each and every day

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    You also informed us that Canton's grades were great for Stanford, Aliotti was going to retire the year Chip left even though there have been articles suggesting he was pissed he didn't get the head coaching job after Chip, and our defense doesn't have a scheme problem, they just can't tackle in space. You've blabbed on that Aiken was getting it done as a D line coach with his vast experience also as a recruiter, this while Chinander has been acknowledged for 90% of all Ron's recruits this year. Oh.... all of this while the Ducks are heavily considering going to a 4-3 because the two coaches Aiken and Pellum who are supposed to be doing all the recruiting in these positions to make a 3-4 work can't get it done! Pellum a LB coach for 20 years, no LB pipeline built, no top 150 LB's, Aiken a D line coach the same! Chinander, Pellum's replacement damn near recruited the whole D class this year along with Neal including Canton!

    Keep talking MOUTH!

    When Aiken is gone after next year, I'm sure you'll find some spin for that bunk too!
     
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    Marshall officially canceled his visit with us, not shocked.
     
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    Same with Murray. He's sticking with TAMU.

    Use that on someone we got a shot with. Tyrone Wheatley perhaps?
     
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    I think we just putter out.

    We'll probably land Merritt (though some risk, he's awful mum on the subject)
    We will probably land Paulo
    We may Flip Moi, but trying awful late I could see him do a Ragin and stick to his previous commitment.

    Uluave will probably pick UCLA, but he is the next most likely get.

    After that we get nuthing, Unless we have a super silent. No one so the Ugo commit so it is possible, but unlikely.
    Certainly no big names, unless we get a miracle Green/Houston thing which I feel is not happening.

    Win the rosebowl, make it to the championships. then we just putter out late in recruiting, can't even sell that they will be the talent that will tip us into winning our first championship.

    Our class is average-good about what it is most years. Bubbling on the edge of top 15 but never reaching top 10. The distance factor sucks, but I know other teams have defeated it.
     
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    A Class of Merritt, Paulo, Moi, and Uluave plus Vernon Adams is quite nice. If we do get a miracle commit, I think it will be Houston or Wheatley. Also, Helfrich has been a much better job in being more aggressive in Recruiting than Chip, who has been a bit lassiez-faire about it and snooty. As STOMP said, flights up here are more pricey than most. I see our class being around 10-15 range.

    Other teams defeating distance? The teams that have won the championship all have had local talent to pick from or within 100 miles or within in-state. The Alabama schools. LSU. Florida State. And Ohio State easily. They don't need to beat distance. Oregon's talent pool next year is more deep IIRC.

    One way it could help is if Phil and some rich donors get together and make some sort of football private school ala IMG Academy, Serra, and Eastern Christian. IF they can make an academy like that and recruit all of the best high school kids in Oregon, Northern Cal, Washington, it could prove beneficial down the line.
     
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    no one cares

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    yes they have reached a top 10 recruiting class

    http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/teamrank/2011/all/all

    the thing I note from that class is how many of the top rated talents quickly washed out. I like that they now prioritize character as it takes a lot more then High School accolades to succeed in D1 & life in general. Are you aware that in the upcoming Super Bowl, not a single player in either team's 2 deep was rated as a 5* coming out of HS? Most of each team's lineups are made up of former 3* prospects... hell, Russell Wilson was a 2* & Tom Brady was unrated

    Also, I'd love it if you could provide us the long list of teams who regularly rank in the top 10 in recruiting that have similar distance issues as UO... I don't see it

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    Excellent thought Zalsa!!! Oregon needs an Oak Hill Academy for sports and have NIKE sponsor it in Portland. A silent Oregon feeder school for the Ducks! Where I'm from in the south we have private schools that do this everywhere. USC has Junipero Serra, Oregon needs a school just like this!!

    A Jesuit on MONSTER STEROIDS!!!!!
     
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    Couldnt be Phil Knight. For someone to run an academy like that, it would have to be a rich mo-fo who is ok not being a Booster for UO. Otherwise youre getting into violations of boosters funneling kids to a school.
     
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    Philip Morris sponsored our non smoking high school so there are ways to make it happen, its just the way the money goes through a non attention drawing intermediate.
     
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    Leiato & Kane are being projected at LB and Cumberlander may start off there as a Drop End. It makes some sense that Chinander would be listed as their lead recruiter. But he didn't make the trip to Hawaii after the Pac 12 Championship to land Rex Manu and secure Canton who was wavering towards taking a trip to USC. And he wasn't on the in-home trip last Tuesday when the landed Gary Baker. Guess who was? Hint hint, it's the same guy who is listed as the lead recruiter for all the Down Lineman recruits.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Canton-Kaumatule-146735
    http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Gary-Baker-169339
    http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Rex-Manu-161625
    https://rivals.yahoo.com/oregon/foo...berg-155951;_ylt=Aoy8VEUHGN4e_V.qUFHOCWYntZB4

    the disconnect between your claims and what the commits are actually saying in rivals interviews about Pellum and Aiken is just more comedy

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    Nebraska doing full court press on Paulo, muddying the waters on what had seemed like a strong duck lean.
     

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