That's it Chuck

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  1. strudwickisthebest

    strudwickisthebest Well-Known Member

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    Zuccarello-Brassard-Nash
    Kreider-Stepan-Miller
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    Glass-Moore-Fast
    Lindberg

    McDonaugh-Girardi
    Staal-Boyle
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    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

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    So McIlrath simply gets claimed by another team I guess?

    Not good enough...and I will leave it at that.
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    McIlrath will be in the starting lineup and rightly so. Agree that Boyle should be moved. However, if Klein is, Gorton better make the team take Glass with him. If the Rangers do trade Klein and can dump Glass with him, I think they might consider signing Yandle long term. However, if they do that, the only way I can see it is they trade Nash next off-season. Kreider and Hayes will probably get close to 10 million next year. Kreider at 5, Hayes at 4.

    Giving Staal that NTC along with Girardi was an idiotic decision.
     
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    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

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    How will McIlrath be in the lineup as of now dump? Right now he is the 8th dman...not the 7th...the 8th dman.

    Now I do think Klein gets dealt for the the forward we badly need, but as it stands right now Mac is out.

    Mac is a R shot, Klein is a R shot, Diaz is a R shot. Again makes too much sense that we must deal Klein, as much as we love him, to balance out the team better, and if Mac/Diaz aren't cutting it as the 6th dmen, you make a deal during the season. That's the way it needs to be IMO, unless we can move Boyle (which has about a 1% chance of happening).
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    Gorton is very big on toughness going back to his days with Boston. He and AV will clash on that early and often because AV doesn't value it at all. Glass to me isn't tough. He just sucks. McIlrath is tough because he can play nasty in front and hit like a truck.
     
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    that didnt answer chucks question of how will Mcilrath be on the squad if hes the 8th dman. diaz and klein are in the way....really its boyle,but he's not moving anytime soone
     
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    Chuck is on ignore. I deemed him a moron. The team doesn't have 8 d-men. Diaz will be in the minors or in the stands. He stinks. I assume as usual Chuck didn't read because he can't read. I stated that either Boyle or Klein will be dealt. End of problem. Diaz has no future on this team with icetime. He's simple here in case of injury. As usual, Chuck doesn't listen or read what people in the organization are saying. AV stated he wanted to get bigger. Stalberg is much bigger that Hagelin. McIlrath is much bigger than Boyle and considerably bigger than Klein. One of those guys is going. Either way, McIlrath is going to start. The cap situation on this team alone will dictate that.
     
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    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

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    You deemed me a moron...that is funny man. I love you dumpy...you know that bro.

    ANYWAY...yes we signed Diaz to a one way deal to put him in the minors...yes that makes sense to me. Not saying he won't be sent down, I have no clue and neither does anyone else, but he was signed to a one-way deal NOT a two-way deal.

    I also think Klein will get dealt for the forward we BADLY need, so the problem will be solved, but right this second Klein is still here.

    Oh dumpy...
     
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    Boyle is going no where

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    The smartest move would be Klein. Sell high while you can. Boyle is then done after this season so you have that money off the books for next season.
     
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    I think Boyle is already done and will get the Redden treatment if he digs in and refuses a trade. I think Diaz was signed to take Hunwick's place as a fill-in for injury. I think McIlrath is on the starting squad. Move Stepan to RW and AV can roll with: Zucc-Brassard-Nash
    CK-Hayes-Stepan
    Stalberg-Miller-Etem
    Glass-Moore/Lindberg-Fast

    McDonough-Girardi
    Staal-Klein
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    They need to get creative with a trade to get another sniper here, or that lineup is a bit too vanilla.
     
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    Panzer, the prospect of moving Stepan to wing is interesting. True his faceoffs are abysmal. However, I think his game is built for C much more than wing. I dont think he shoots often enough or well enough to be a top 6 winger. We already have a guy like that playing wing in Zucc (playmaker rather than scorer). He's also very effective at C once the puck is in play. The organization has developed him into a top 6 C since day 1 and I dont see them changing it.

    Regarding Boyle, ideally he is off the roster somehow. But you can't give the Redden treatment anymore. If we send him down we get a max of 950k in cap savings (up from 900k last year). His remaining 3.55m will be on the books, and we cant afford that amount of dead money. He isnt waiving, and we need him to play. Dump has also suggested sitting him in the stands until he agrees to waive. It's very wishful thinking.

    The funny thing is he isnt even that bad. He never got in a rhythm last year with the fluke injuries. One more year and he's gone anyway. I know I'm a broken record at this point and have been saying it since the season ended, but Klein is the one with the NTC and the guy who really should be moved.
     
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    Yandle and Boyle are turnover machines. You get rid of Klein, basically you are throwing this year away unless a miracle happens and McIlrath is a stud this year and Yandle for the first time learns how to play defense.
     
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    Yikes, other than Step and Fast, neither of which have a good shot, there are no RH forwards on the team
     
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    I know, it's awful. Which to me maks Williams a huge miss.

    There are reports that Williams left more money on the table to go to the Caps. Other than Eklund nobody is saying we were even involved, and our targets usually get leaked eventually. I have to assume that the more money was from a non-contender.
     
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    Yandle yes, but Klein actually had well more turnovers than Boyle did last year. Klein had 2.2 turnovers per 60 min played (second worst on the team behind Yandle), while Boyle came in at 1.51 (the lowest out of our top 6 defenseman). Boyle is really not a turnover machine at all, he just doesnt win the battle for the puck very often. Once he has the puck he's very good with it, in my opinion and as the stats suggest.

    Yandle was 11th in the league in giveaways last year. But lets look at some of the guys ahead of him: Subban (1), Erik Karlsson (4), Wideman (5), John Carlson (7). Drew Doughty was right behind him at 12. Fact of the matter is, any time you are a defenseman in the mold of Yandle, you will turn the puck over at times. They're not looking to chip out like Girardi and Staal and call it a day. They're looking to run the offense. I'll take those turnover numbers any day of the week when you consider his offensive production.
     
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    Now we are throwing this year away if we deal Klein...oh boy...

    I will also add, if those are our lines panzer we are in big trouble my friend...LOL. We must add a top 6 R shot winger...huge need. Been clear to all of us since the season ended.
     
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    I am with you Prod. I think Yandle is being WAY underrated in here. The guy is a 50 point dman every season, and that is not easy to find. Give him a full training camp and season with the team, and I expect big things.

    The issue with the PP is the lack of a good RH shot IMO, and while I think it will be better with Yandle running it, I think the PP will still struggle without a R shot added upfront.
     
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    Get rid of everyone!!!!
     

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