Haywood and Mike Miller to Portland

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Red Rooster, Jul 26, 2015.

  1. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    42,643
    Likes Received:
    24,141
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Is that where he keeps his failure to sign a top tier FA?
     
    OneLifeToLive likes this.
  2. BigGameDamian

    BigGameDamian Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2012
    Messages:
    29,808
    Likes Received:
    11,437
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Now we need to trade a 1st round pick for Hedo Turkoglu.
     
  3. Pinwheel1

    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2008
    Messages:
    21,083
    Likes Received:
    13,621
    Trophy Points:
    113
    If there are really 3 teams interested in MM, I say forget the buyout and trade him to the team of his choice......for another 2nd rounder. 3 picks for absolutely nothing would be a good use of our cap space.
     
    BonesJones likes this.
  4. ripcityboy

    ripcityboy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2013
    Messages:
    12,934
    Likes Received:
    10,797
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    self employed
    Location:
    pdx, or, usa.
    This trade really shows how hard a job Neil has. A trade like this is akin to to putting your blown out amplifier on Craigslist and hoping someone comes along and claims it. There's an old saying that publicity is creating "something from nothing." Olshey's trying to do the same thing with the Blazers roster while we are incentially the St Louis Browns. What a job. I wouldn't mind the salary but not the responsibility.
     
  5. Shooter

    Shooter Unanimously Great

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2008
    Messages:
    5,484
    Likes Received:
    152
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Occupation:
    advertising
    Location:
    Blazerville
    Heh. Very good.
     
  6. ripcityboy

    ripcityboy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2013
    Messages:
    12,934
    Likes Received:
    10,797
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    self employed
    Location:
    pdx, or, usa.
    watching put for falling debris!
     
    Last edited: Jul 26, 2015
  7. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

    Joined:
    May 7, 2015
    Messages:
    44,453
    Likes Received:
    38,480
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Vancouver, WA
    Anyone else trying trade a bad contract? Might us well trade a second round pick for a 1st and a bad contract
     
  8. Wizard Mentor

    Wizard Mentor Wizard Mentor

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2008
    Messages:
    13,853
    Likes Received:
    13,651
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Master of Xen Foro
    Location:
    La Grande, OR
    I can understand that 3 teams are interested in MM, but what can we get for Kingspeed and Mags? :)
     
    Eastoff and Voodoo like this.
  9. ripcityboy

    ripcityboy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2013
    Messages:
    12,934
    Likes Received:
    10,797
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    self employed
    Location:
    pdx, or, usa.
    Old ABA basketball, Six Pack of Pabst
     
    Red Rooster likes this.
  10. Pinwheel1

    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2008
    Messages:
    21,083
    Likes Received:
    13,621
    Trophy Points:
    113
    They are untouchable.
     
    dviss1 and Dom McBlazer like this.
  11. SpamKing

    SpamKing "Moisten needle before inserting"

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2008
    Messages:
    350
    Likes Received:
    161
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Occupation:
    Have Fun will Travel
    Good move! Anything that helps the Cavs fucks the Spurs . . .
     
    BonesJones likes this.
  12. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

    Joined:
    May 7, 2015
    Messages:
    44,453
    Likes Received:
    38,480
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Vancouver, WA
    I'd trade MM for a bag of peanuts but Mags followed me back on Twitter so I hope we keep him. Maybe we could trade Rasta for a top 5 pick?
     
  13. Draco

    Draco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2008
    Messages:
    9,315
    Likes Received:
    3,003
    Trophy Points:
    113
    With the Cavs payroll projected to be over $100 million this year and a massive luxury tax bill I don't think they use the big exception this season. If they add a player making $10 million it'll cost something crazy like $70 million.

    It won't expire until July 28th, 2016 though. So next offseason they can give Mozgov a raise, give LeBron the new $30+ million max, use the MLE and then also use this trade exception while the luxury tax level will be far higher. See how Dallas got Zaza Pachulia, Washington got Jared Dudley, Charlotte got Jeremy Lamb, Boston got Perry Jones III, and we got Moe Harkless.

    Heck we might even see them do the reverse of this trade next summer; acquire a player win a nonguaranteed contract for a second round pick. Then trade that pick and newly acquired non guaranteed contract again to an under the cap team for the same $10 million trade exception that will last until 2017. Pretty soon every over the cap team in the league will have Luke Ridnour and Brendan Haywood for a few days of the offseason to get $30 million of trade exceptions.

    Biggest downside for the Blazers is if we are targeting the same trade partner next summer.
     
    Last edited: Jul 26, 2015
    Darkwebs likes this.
  14. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2009
    Messages:
    30,060
    Likes Received:
    8,157
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    retired, while you work!
    Paul Allen paid Cleveland $1M-3M, too. This benefits Cleveland so much that I expected Olshey to get a very late 1st round pick. Disappointing. Source:

    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/1...an-haywood-mike-miller-portland-trail-blazers

     
    Red Rooster likes this.
  15. OneLifeToLive

    OneLifeToLive Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2012
    Messages:
    5,620
    Likes Received:
    517
    Trophy Points:
    113
  16. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2009
    Messages:
    30,060
    Likes Received:
    8,157
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    retired, while you work!
    Cleveland concocted the 2nd round pick scenario, and even publicly announced the 3 teams who had enough cap room to partner with them. See this thread.

    http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/cavs-want-to-trade-brendon-haywood-to-us.287879/

    Allen's money made the difference over the other 2 teams. Olshey just went along for the ride and failed to get a #1.
     
    Red Rooster likes this.
  17. OneLifeToLive

    OneLifeToLive Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2012
    Messages:
    5,620
    Likes Received:
    517
    Trophy Points:
    113
  18. ripcityboy

    ripcityboy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2013
    Messages:
    12,934
    Likes Received:
    10,797
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    self employed
    Location:
    pdx, or, usa.
    You're expectations are REALLY high.
     
  19. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2009
    Messages:
    30,060
    Likes Received:
    8,157
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    retired, while you work!
    For 2019, Cleveland owned the Wolves' 2nd rounder, which is now ours. For 2020, we received Cleveland's own 2nd round pick.

    To watch a pick move from team to team, just read left to right. (I've pushed this site since I came to S2. It was the same a decade ago on the ESPN Blazer board. I couldn't get them to understand it, either.)

    http://www.prosportstransactions.com/basketball/DraftTrades/Future/Cavaliers.htm
     
    Red Rooster likes this.
  20. OneLifeToLive

    OneLifeToLive Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2012
    Messages:
    5,620
    Likes Received:
    517
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Well...

    Keep in mind who helped who here. Maybe they should be.
     

Share This Page