Haywood and Mike Miller to Portland

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  1. Shooter

    Shooter Unanimously Great

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    Yes, but an opportunity we won't realize for
    4 years. We're in rebuilding mode now and we need players. Four years from now we should hopefully be playing for a title and won't even need somebody else's second round picks.
     
  2. julius

    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Some of you guys are upset that they got 2 free draft picks that won't come to fruition for 4 or 5 years?

    Really?
     
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    These are assets that can be included in a trade before that time.
     
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    Some people simply cant be pleased. Period. some people actually enjoy living a life of depression and sulking at every thing that happens in their lives and around them.

    I would like to kjnoq, can NO turn around and use these picks for trades? In other words, Do we have to hang onto them unilt the draft year?
    If not, then everyone should quit bitchin and let NO FINISH, before you cry.
     
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    I wonder if the Blazers will keep Mike Miller. We do need some help at SF, a SF who can shoot. I don't know what was up with him last season, or why his shooting took such a big nose dive.

    But I'd just as soon keep him than pay him to leave for nothing. He was one of the better SFs in the league throughout his career.
     
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    Who says we need to wait 4 years to deal the picks? How anyone can complain about adding assets for free is beyond me
     
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    It's adding liquid assets. I'm all for it.

    Now we gotta move Kaman for something.
     
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    Could Neil still move Brendan's contract before the deadline?
     
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    Beer?
     
  10. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Miller's $2.85M is on the books, no matter what any buyout arrangement is.

    FYI
     
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    Just in Case KOR cares, that 2.85 is on the cap regardless due to the minimum salary rule. It literally means nothing. It's either going to MM or split amongst the team
     
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    This shows some value of the 2nd round picks. They rarely pan out, but they're really good for using in lopsided trades if you have cap space.

    My take on this is that NO basically paid $2.85M + $150K for two second round picks. It's not something for nothing, but it is a good deal when you consider the cost of buying 2nd round picks.
     
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    Well there is opportunity cost for later in the year. If there is a trade that surfaces where we need all our capspace to absorb salary, this 2.85 mil eats into that.

    But the likelihood of that happening is next to nothing so the cost is minimal.
     
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    The Rip City Mornings guys are reporting that his buyout is $400K, and the Cavs are going to be paying it.
     
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    I can't imagine a trade where we need to eat 30M$
     
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    I'd bet that Neil will turn one of these picks into another Mo Harkless/salary absorbing move for another young prospect.
     
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    How in the he'll can anyone justify this as a losing trade... delusional negativity man, delusional negativity. We gave up zero... zero in terms of tangible assets to add 2 further future assets. We could have bought them for the same price, but that would eat into our yearly allotment of cash considerations much more. Ohh it ate 2.8mil out of our cap space, we have to spend that money no matter what anyway, why not spend it on assets than just giving each of the players on roster a bonus at the end of the season.

    We still have enough cap space to absorb a near max guy and we have small contracts that can be waived without it being a financial issue even remotely. Let's get real here anyway, the players unloaded to be absorbed are done so because nobody else thinks they are worth the money they are making, see David Lee.

    In all.seriousness if a person is finding fault with this trade, they literally have tunnel vision on making this summer out to be as negative as possible. I've lost a shitload of respect for several posters I thought to be rational good posters.
     
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    But seriously though... We still have 19mil in cap space. How much are we gonna absorb?
     
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    Yup. Very unlikely. Going from 23 mil to 20 mil in capspace is not that big a deal.
     
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    I believe so if he is traded by himself, Aug 1 is the deadline for his nonguaranteed deal - so by the end of the week
     

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