No supplemental discipline is expected. (LeBrun) BTW... I do agree with dump that the team needs to get tougher...having McIlrath should/will help that on D. I am still concerned about that upfront though. That always is my concern. Where is the toughness upfront that can score dirty goals pounding and banging down low? It will be Kreider once every 4 games or so, but that isn't enough. It is a concern I have come playoff time...the ONLY time that truly counts for this team.
Of course there's no discipline expected. The name on the back of the jersey isn't a superstar like Crosby or Malkin or Ovie. NHL, where consistency doesn't exist.
Laughable. As Boomer says. NHL hits the screwtherangers button again. McLeod might be a very nice addition to our 4th line. I'm sure he would be reasonable to obtain.
By the way, Dubinsky gets a hearing for a cross check on Crosby. Belesky gets nothing. Once again. Consistency. It simply doesn't exist in the realm of the NHL.
If that's a hit the NHL wants in the game I don't know what to tell you. File it away until the next meeting.
That's what I'm saying. It's the EXACT type of hit the NHL has said they want to get out, along with headshots. A late hit, when the puck has been moved away and resulting in injury. I simply give up on figuring out what rule book the NHL follows.
Every player should be protected by this league; yet, the NHL officials only worry about the high profile players. NHL policy must change. They are getting it wrong.
Cage, can't disagree with you but this league has always been about protecting the stars unfortunately at the expense of the other players
The discrepancy in discipline among teams (especially/primarily the Rangers) has gone on for decades in the NHL. I freely admit that I've wanted McIlrath on the team for years and his play the last two days is exactly why, they need his physical presence. Would have been nice to see the Captain rally his troops but I just don't see McDonough doing much of that. Stepan hit was a cheap shot, highly unlikely the Rangers would make Boston pay if a penalty was called anyway, a beatdown leaves a much longer lasting impression.
Bottom line..they lost the last two games...pay back..intimidating. .what ever you want to call it...they lost Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk
I don't put that on McIlrath, he's played a handful of games and I think he's played solid hockey. I agree with Chuck and others about CK, Miller & Fast. They need to start doing something. The softness the Rangers forwards have displayed lately might call for AV to bring up the beloved Tanner Glass for Stepan 's spot.
I think you guys are both right. McIlrath should play. He adds an element on the D that is good for the team. We need what McIlrath brings. We don't need what Boyle brings. Mac should have been playing more often over Boyle...hopefully he will be given a little run here. But simply playing McIlrath isn't going scare other teams, or make us a much tougher team overall, or win us games just because he is there and "intimidating" teams. To me Etem, Miller, Hayes, Kreider are the keys. What have we gotten from those guys? Etem...zero. Miller and Kreider 7 goals combined. Hayes has 6 goals, but he really hasn't taken a step forward from last year IMO. We need more from these (4) if you want to really be a big team. Kreider clearly # 1, but Hayes is # 2 to me in terms of frustration. And we still pass too much. Hayes refuses to shoot sometimes. Yesterday both Lindberg and Zucc had good chances...but instead decided to pass to covered guys and we got no shot. It frustrates the hell out of me. The small % of time those pretty plays work doesn't outweigh the option of just shooting the puck and see what happens. Shoot the darn puck...
Chuck quote :But simply playing McIlrath isn't going scare other teams, or make us a much tougher team overall, or win us games just because he is there and "intimidating" teams. Chuck, I disagree as Having Mac in there Has every opposing forward coming into our zone with their heads up. And yes you still might get a braindead opponent taking a cheap shot every now and then but after the last 2 games and watching him kick the crap out of the offender the word will get around fast enough what will happen afterward. Noticed 2 ranger past cheap shot artists wilson and rinaldo very quiet with Mac in the lineup. At this point I've seen enough to say Mac should be 1 of our 6 d-men every game now and the guy I would play him with is McD as girardi is killing him. The more this kid plays the better he gets and that move in the d end where he faked one way and went around the net the other way leaving the forechecker looking for his jockstrap in the corner should put to rest the notion that this kid can't skate.
We'll agree to disagree Mel McIlrath.... I don't think other grown men will be scared or intimidated to play the Rangers because of McIlrath. Didn't seem to stop the hit on Stepan. Also lost both games McIlrath has played recently. But with that said I would leave him in over Boyle for sure as I have said for a while. I am just not at the level of most in here that McIlrath is a one man intimidation/wrecking crew. I think I am more in line with Al on this one.
Chuck....Also lost both games McIlrath has played recently. And also lost both games recently that McD, staal, girardi, klein and Yandle played in also. So what!!
He did play well...I agree. That is why I would continue to play him over Boyle as I have been saying. I just don't agree with the thinking that McIlrath is some one man intimidation/wrecking crew. That's where we disagree. He won't intimidate other grown men and prevent them from doing what they will do...no hockey player really does that IMO. This isn't some deal where either you slobber all over McIlrath and think he will intimidate everyone OR you are against him. I think he should play. I think he played well the past two games. I would continue to have him in over Boyle. I just don't think he will intimidate all these teams from doing what they will do.
The point again ill make, donwe want 1 dman being in the box 5 to 17 minutes a game because he has to drop the gloves? To say once word gets arounf the league is old too...in the age of the Internet Facebook twitter instagram do you really think it takes time for players to know what dylan is all about? You dont think before the game when the lineup is revealed teams dont say hey dylan is out there? It didnt stop the bullshit hit on stepan from happening. Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk
Good points Al. I don't want him missing all that time either protecting his teammates and I think a change of strategy is needed such as waiting a couple of shifts before getting payback and avoiding that instigator and misconduct part which by the way is a bullshit rule by the league that protects the cheap shot artists that never get suspended unless they breathe on cindy. Or yesterdays strategy even better; make a big hit and then beat the shit out of anyone who comes looking for payback and let them get the extra 12 minutes.
