Politics You can't make this stuff up

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  1. crandc

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    Someone might want to tell the Donald to get a crew cut and start jogging
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    crandc cares as well as a lot of women....Trump's life has mirrored his sexism....c'mon....like it's a stretch? The culture is to point out his bad behavior and then watch him walk it back and correct it....don't see the pattern? What does it take to call out the dude....a court case?
     
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    Platypus, you may doubt what was said about women's clothing, but consulting two male CEOs to find out about working women is a fact. Not an alternative fact. A fact. I'm waiting to hear a non-sexist reason why women could not be considered knowledgeable about women....
     
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    Why not twist make CEO's arms to do better for women?

    You can make stuff up.
     
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    Not disputing the silliness of that, especially considering that there will be female CEO's there for other conferences, so it seems there's no reason they couldn't also be included in the one that actually discusses women. But blanket agreement doesn't make for interesting conversation.
     
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    Context, riverman. The "who cares?" was in relation to whether or not he actually said what is being attributed to him. Because "the culture is" to find something objectionable that might be true and just assume it is.

    And so I would say, if crandc and other women do in fact care whether or not he actually said that, then it would make sense to find out whether or not he actually said that before blowing up over it.
     
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    umm, more hair on fire.
     
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    This seems like a good thread for this:
     
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    These are the two male CEO's 834.jpg
     
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    Could be, and I don't know who the 2 CEOs are or the role of women in their organization, but it could be that those 2 companies have done a good job hiring and promoting women and he wanted to know what steps they have taken. Just one possible non sexist reason why he would want to talk to them. Your average female (or male) employee wouldn't necessarily know how to build a company culture that actually achieves equality and opportunity for everyone.
     
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    How about the facts?

    http://time.com/money/4659450/men-advise-trump-women-workplace/

    Walmart CEO Doug McMillon and EY CEO Mark Weinberger are the headliners for a discussion on women's workplace issues, according to the Wall Street Journal. There is no context offered for why McMillon and Weinberger were selected. EY has been a leader in the financial sector on issues like generous paid parental leave policies and other perks for male and female employees.

    Meanwhile, women leaders will discuss other business issues with Trump, including General Motors CEO Mary Barra, IBM CEO Ginni Rometty, and Pepsi Co. CEO Indra Nooyi.
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    Don't need no facts. Need tweets. Tweets and more tweets. TWEEEEEETTTTTTTSSSSSS!!!!!
     
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...53018f9a0ec_story.html?utm_term=.3036eb751c0a

    many women who have worked closely with Trump say he was a corporate executive ahead of his time in providing career advancement for women. While some say he could be boorish, his companies nurtured and promoted women in an otherwise male-dominated industry. Several women said they appreciated how Trump granted them entry to a new playing field.

    “From the standpoint of being a woman, I just thought he was phenomenal,” said Sunshine, 74. “So supportive and encouraging. . . . He gave me the ropes, and I could either hang myself or prove myself.”

    Jennifer Crisafulli-Oberting, 43, a contestant on the Trump reality TV show “The Apprentice” who went on to promote the show in media appearances with Trump, said she felt she was being welcomed into the “boys’ club” — but on her terms.

    “You were like one of the guys right off the bat, but you didn’t have to act or dress like one of the guys,” she said.

    Trump often told the women he employed and worked with that he valued those he believed would stand their ground on construction sites and in legal battles. He called Barbara Res, whom he put in charge of the construction of his now-iconic Trump Tower in 1980, “a killer,” she recalled. And he used to tell her and others that “men are better than women, but a good woman is better than 10 good men.”

    “He wasn’t discriminatory against women that I saw,” said Res, now in her 60s and owner of a construction consultancy.

    Res said Trump was “brave” to hire her when few women were in the business. But like many men of the era, she said, “he was sexist; he made comments and stuff like that.”

    In an interview, Trump blamed perceptions of him as sexist on unfair media coverage of his presidential campaign.

    “I have been very, very good for women,” he said. “I was way ahead of the curve.”

    Trump highlighted the role of women in his corporate success in his 1987 book “The Art of the Deal,” writing that he hired “a lot of women for top jobs, and they’re among my best people.”

    Referring in the interview to his recruitment and promotion of women, he added: “It was a good decision. Good for women and good for me.”

    Today, according to Trump’s attorney, Michael Cohen, there are more women than men holding executive positions in the Trump Organization, heading such departments as human resources, golf and hotel management, and global licensing, even though women make up just 43 percent of the overall workforce. Women who are in similar positions as men, Cohen said, “are compensated at equal and in many cases higher pay rates.”
     
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    Lies, and people will pick out the men are better than women part and RIOT over it.

    Even though he says a good woman is better than 10 good men.
     
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