Vonleh - is he becoming a solid player?

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  1. stampedehero

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    Turner not just garbage, but hot garbage.
     
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    Vonleh can start on this team, but we would need to upgrade our SF position if he does. I love a lot of what he brings, defence, rebounds, but he needs another big offseason to develop a number of areas of his game.
     
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    Ummmm.....

    Thanks... I was about to say alot more. lol.


    I agree. PLus Crabbe and Turner are the larger contracts we need to move... and Leonard. Aminu/Vonleh will be fine with a healthy Nurk and Davis I think(Davis might need to go and an upgrade at backup C), and thier contracts are MUCH more friendly. Harkless is still young and I think can be our wing stopper, but needs to come off the bench and we need a stud at the three. We make that happen and we are REALLY close to competing with the best because this process will provide another year of growth for all these young guys to gel together.
    I would like to see us try t target Justin Jackson as our potential future three and let him and Hark duke it out for the starting spot. Use the other two picks to shed the contracts of Crabbe/Leonard(whoever we can, and then look for a better backup C.
     
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    I have no complaints about Vonleh last night...he was a great defender on Curry, Green, everybody...Turner and Chief also....defense doesn't get enough respect...as to shooting....we didn't run plays for anybody really besides Dame CJ and Chief....if you don't touch the ball..you don't put it in the basket. I think we defended the Warriors about as good as you can defend them in a loss...Mo and Turner had a rough night trying to make layups...
     
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    I really think Vonleh is a great fit for our team either as a starting or reserve PF. There may be room for upgrading several positions on the team, but I truly believe Vonleh is a keeper.
     
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    At 21 I'd say he's going to be part of our rotation for a long time....I think he'll start and when he can just play PF he'll shine next to Nurk....this series he's playing center and it's not his position.
     
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    Lineup versatility will work to his benefit as long as he's willing to play solid defense at the 4/5 positions.
     
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    I think he will work as our D Green style small ball center lineup too. But that is something we shouldn't do often because we are too small in other positions. Compare GSW smal ball lineup to ours. Vonleh may be bigger than Green but that's about it. Everyone else on our team still has a size disadvantage, so that only works if guys like Hark, Crabbe, Aminu, Turner are all hitting shots. Small ball only works if shooters are making shots. We don't have enough consistent shooters to play small ball in my opinion now, so that's why Vonleh didn't look good at the 5, but add another great shooter or two at the 3/4, and he would be much better I think.
     
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    I liked what I saw of Vonleh last night. He looked like an NBA player, and looks like he's going to get better given more PT.

    He's no replacement for Nurk, though, and that cost us.
     
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    I just hope we don't end up losing him down the road because of our bad contracts, and see him become an all star elsewhere
     
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    Agreed. I'd also like to see our team add a defensive player in the backcourt as a key reserve for Dame and CJ. Having a key defensive player (perhaps in the mold of Patrick Beverley) would go a long way towards improving our perimeter defense. It would also add another dimension towards our lineup versatility.
     
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    Yeah, I used to think Turner would be that guy, but its obvious he cant play great D and provide a solid leadership role as a backup PG.
    Someone like Wes Mathews off the bench? I also wasn't fond of him coming back at first, but contract for contract for Turner or Crabbe? Might be something to consider. ESPECIALLY if we can get them to take Meyers.
     
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    Vonleh hasn't got paid the big bucks yet
     
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    I'd seriously talk to the Grizz about taking on Meyers contract ...he's played his best ball against Memphis and with Gasol, he could take Zbo's spot..they need 3 pt shooting about as bad as any team in the league
     
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    Yeah trade him to the hornets, they like to take on Shitty centers bloated contracts...see Miles Plumlee
     
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    Cho is Charlotte's GM, not Memphis'
     
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    This and we give one or two picks draft pick or two might answer most of our problems no?

    then we just need to shed Ezeli and Aminu so we can resign Nurk. Give those guys up for future picks to teams with cap space.

    We get our 3 and D guy to back up CJ and Dame.
    We get a bigger PF to back up Vonleh. Or they can compete for the start.
    We get rid of a couple bigger contracts.

    This move would give Dallas a guy they might think can learn from Dirk, in Meyers, and an expensive ball handler in Turner, but they get a couple of picks to open up their options.

    Would it take all three picks? Not sure I wold do it if it cost that, but I might, if other options didn't show up.

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    I think @riverman was throwing out Charlotte and Memphis as two options
     

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