I drove through a town not too long ago that was burned to the ground by yanks. When i went to buy my sweet symbol of freedom. Was pretty cool to see this big ass old church. Was only building in town that didnt burn.
I like the symbol. As soon as i see a tat, i know i want nothing to do with the person. Saves a lot of time that migbt be wasted trying to get to know someone.
Seriously guys, it's a statue. Sometimes statues get moved. Sometimes they get melted down for bullet casings. Fuck, sometimes they get toilet papered. It's not the end of the white race. And somehow, against all odds, I think that after an inanimate object is moved a few miles, we will still manage to remember that slavery happened. Probably. We are definitely doomed to repeat history though. Except the whites will be the slaves next time.
A very informative movie called "Boondock Saints" assured us that it will be the white midgets vs. The black midgets.
How could we possibly forget that slavery happened...... we have Dviss to constantly remind us I keed! I keed!
This is a bit specious. Do you know what it said on that monument? Tom Sawyer? Are you talking about Huckleberry Finn? Which is a clear INDICTMENT of slavery? And is, and this is important, NOT A FUCKING STATUE? I'm fine with taking the statue and putting it in a museum that says "here's how stupid and shitty we used to be" but it doesn't have to be in the public square for stupid shitty people to rally round.
Or like this guy? Someone responsible for some of the worst Colonialist excesses in American history. But thousands of people parade through that monument every year, some maybe separatist quacks and some probably Eagle scouts. And thats my point, in history there is no good and bad, there is just WHO won and WHO lost. I'm sure the historians and rock carvers who build the Confederate monuments, wrote and celebrated them in glowing terms because they were taught that way (or they didn't want their heads kicked in.) But now that work is a part or our history and our culure. If we are truly represent the best and worst of our forebears, we get the guilt as well. If some trust fund baby inherents money from the works of immigrants and slaves, he inherits the dirty feelings and need for atonement. You can build the biggest museum in the world, filled with the latest scholars and historians with books to sell and revisionist BS ideas teaching at some liberal arts college.... But you can't get rid of all the symbols and propaganda (which as I am sure you know are very powerful) because the kids will get into the real world and listen to the past and read and interpret history as they see fit. They will use those historic icons as heroes or villans, regardless of a statue with pigeon shit all over it. Hell, a lot of Russians look to Stalin as a nationalist hero.... and he was from Georgia! People will overlook any atrocity for identity. And people will try to censor books too (you were right) it was Huck Finn.... my bad.
It is obvious the Confederacy held their slaves in high esteem, pushing aside even the father of our country to give them center stage on their currency.
Statues and fictional characters are both works of art, just not in the same mediums. That is the extent to which they differ.
guys, i woke up this morning and was like, "fuck, i dont see any statues... did slavery actually happen?"
Just so there's no misunderstanding about my posts in this thread, I'm simply defending the idea of preserving these obviously historically significant statues as we do with all historically significant measures of mankind's advancement through the ages. That's what museums are for. I am all for taking down any and every statue memorializing any statue wearing a Confederate or British or Japanese or German or Mexican or Spanish...military uniform. They all were enemies of America and many Real Americans died at their hands. As for those who like to display their Confederate flags (whether they have any personal connection or not), I regard them as I would Lindsey Graham, Nanny Pelosi, Rachel Maddow or Glenn Beck. Fake Americans.
Fuck that! I want to get rid of a certain Southern Colonel..... and he's part of the Illuminati. His companies products have been poisoning the fat youth of America for years! He's an enemy of the American People!
