Notice |Draft| The case for Harry Giles

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  1. 3RA1N1AC

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    we should draft 3 high ceiling guys. we need to luck into an all star in the draft to have any chance to contend in the next 5 years.
     
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    This isn't the right thread but I didn't want to start another one just for this:



    Go Trojans!
     
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    i love that SMU kid ojeleye. dude can ball, but makes me wonder why coach k didnt play him at all.

    im gonna take a stab at the pronunciation, ive never heard it.

    oh-ya-leh-jay? with the jay almost like zhay?
     
  4. PDXFonz

    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    Oh-juh-lay
     
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    Fuck ass
     
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    No on Giles.
     
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    Yeah, even if you forget the injury issues, I'm not sure what other than rebounding he'll do at an above average level.

    He's always been a stiff, turnover prone offensive player with %'s than indicate he should be lower usg% finisher offensively. People see this guy that can handle the ball in his HS mixtapes but the level of competition he played was pretty low.

    IQ and movement defensively makes me question whether he'll be ready to contribute on that end either for at least the first couple years. Very foul prone and completely lost in pnr.
     
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  8. Fez Hammersticks

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    "Teams are waiting with a lot of anticipation for Harry Giles' medical reports to come back. I talked to a number of NBA executives who said if he's totally cleared by their medical staff, he could move in the Nos. 5-10 range of the draft.

    "He's the best prospect in the entire draft if he can fully recover and stay healthy," one NBA executive said. "He's just a freaky talent." /Insider
     
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    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    How can someone his age with multiple knee surgeries be "totally cleared"? The risk is there, and no matter how the doctors spin it, it's a serious one.
     
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    Yeah if a team want's to take a risk on Harry and push Collins further down the board...be my guest.
     
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    I'd take a shot on Giles with a later pick, like Cleveland's. At that point in the draft, the expected return is so low, I think it's worth taking a shot on upside as opposed to someone who might grade out with a slightly better median projection but a much lower ceiling even if he pans out.
     
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    Giles is getting a lot of flak for his combine athletic test.

    Some perspective -- LaMarcus Alridge Vs. Harry Giles:

    LA: 6'11.25" | 9'2" reach | 26.5" no-step | 34" max vert
    Giles: 6'10.5" | 9'1.5" reach | 27" no-step | 32.5" max vert


    If he's there at 20/26 you have to strongly consider him IMO.

    Giles is the definition of big time risk - high reward.

    Neil still has to come out of this draft with Jordan Bell though!
     
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    One thing I should mention about the LA/HG comparison - one is still not fully 100% back from injury. Even though he has yet to regain his explosiveness he's still on par with Aldridge. There is a strong chance that Giles will never regain his explosiveness - he's still a solid athlete, not the freak he once was though.

    Giles' athleticism shouldn't be a deal breaker. His physical will be the deal breaker if he's red-flagged.
     
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    27 inch vertical at the combine... :blink:
     
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    I don't think comparing Giles to Aldridge is all that comforting. Giles is intriguing because of his insane athleticism, not because he's terribly skilled. Aldridge was light years ahead of him in terms of offensive skills in college. You have to love his tools and athletic upside and believe that the skills will develop. It's kind of a problem if his prospect star depends on being a freakish athlete and currently his explosiveness has been sapped with no guarantee that he gets it back to previous levels.
     
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    Finally....someone in the NBA I can out jump! :blazerwookie:
     
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    His knees are "100% healthy" according to ....Harry Giles.

    The Blazers (amd every other team he has worked out for) had team doctors examine his knees fwiw.
     
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    I think all teams he work out for has exam knees and so far I haven't heard nothing negative about them so that is good. I think he only working out for the kings Detroit Chicago Indiana Miami and us. Kings not going draft him I don't think Detroit or Chicago so I believe Miami will different direction. So we taking at 15 if not there indiana if he gets by there we can select him at 20. I got for us at 20.
     
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    He said he was completely healthy, then said he was still rehabbing and getting stronger.

    So which is it?
     
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    Good; I hope he moves into the top 10. Blazers cannot afford this risk.
     

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