OT Woman calls 911, gets killed by Minneapolis police, source says

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  1. stampedehero

    stampedehero Make Your Day, a Doobies Day Staff Member Moderator

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    Off the raiding boat and into a US police "prowler"............WTF.............Why are they hiring East Africans instead of freckle faced young Americans.
     
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    BLM must equally protest all things ever because things.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Him being charged would actually help BLM's cause a lot. If he is, they can spin it that he's only being charged because he's a black cop who shot a white woman.

    And it's arguable that it won't be a completely unreasonable interpretation.
     
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  4. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Because there is a very large Somali community there and a police force should reflect the population it serves.
     
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    In conversations with dviss I sometimes said we had different fears. He could go places a woman could not, but when I saw a cop I could figure they counted me (white, female, midlife) as someone they "protect and serve" while he could not. This woman was younger than me but still a mature woman, no kid, in her pajamas talking to an officer whom she no doubt thought would protect and serve her.
     
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  6. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    The punishment for an officer who commits murder should be worse than that for a regular citizen who commits murder.
     
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  7. SlyPokerDog

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    It already is. It's called being sent to prison with the people you helped arrest.
     
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  8. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Not enough.
     
  9. SlyPokerDog

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    I'm sure you can understand why we shouldn't have different punishments for different types, classes or races of people. At least we're not suppose to, lol.
     
  10. PtldPlatypus

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    So for example, a teacher having sex with a 14-year-old student shouldn't have a stiffer punishment than someone else unaffiliated with the school doing the same? The inherent abuse of the power dynamic present in such a situation doesn't merit stronger discipline?
     
  11. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    You mean a teacher should get a worse punishment than a minister or relative?
     
  12. PtldPlatypus

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    Poor examples, because the power dynamic exists in those relationships as well. I'm more contrasting the teacher with, for instance, some guy who met a teenage girl at the mall.

    And I'm not stating anything--I'm asking you. Should said dude who hooks up with a teenager be treated identically with a teacher (or minister, or relative)?
     
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    Not poor examples, I would argue your original example was incomplete.

    I believe that should be up to the judge at time of sentencing.
     
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    The example was not intended to be an all-encompassing classification--it was simply an example. The secondary question clearly indicated the purpose of the question--you chose to divert the focus away therefrom.

    And obviously the question isn't "how should the legal system function?" Of course the judge decides sentencing. But that doesn't eliminate your opinion of how it should occur. Clearly, I need to reframe it. If you were a judge deciding sentencing in a statutory rape case, would the offender being in a pre-sexual-relationship position of power over the victim merit a stronger punishment?

    Is it really so complex of a question that it's not worthy of a yes or no answer?
     
  15. Natebishop3

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    When someone who is charged to protect the weak and the innocent becomes a killer, that person should be punished worse, imo.

    Similarly, when someone is elected to represent the people, and they break that trust and harm the people, they should be punished far worse than any other criminal.

    I'm tired of watching public servants screw us over and suffer no consequences. The consequences should be so harsh that they wouldn't even consider it.
     
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    I would give them the maximum sentence allowed by the existing law.
     
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    It's hard to imagine how there could be a justifiable reason for this shooting. Most likely to me seems to be that the officer was either frightened by something the woman said or did and overreacted. That said, like all of these incidents, we have to wait until we learn more before rushing to judgment.
     
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    Yes I suspect it easier to predict the possibility of the shooting than it is to justify it.
     
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    Wow, there is still flat out no explaination. I think this is the point where the officer needs to be arrested and charged. He just whipped out a gun and shot a woman? I can't even write down what I'd do if I were that woman's husband.
     
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