Merged: Crabbe Traded to Brk

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  1. Driew

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    Oh absolutely. Didn't Crabbe play better without dame on the court this past season too? There was some stat posted on here earlier this summer that Crabbe shot a worse percentage with dame than without dame.
     
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    I'm not "trying to make a case for Crabbe." I'm trying to point out that the case for Gordon isn't as cut-and-dried as you're trying to make it out to be. You're focused on offensive aggressiveness and shot creation to the exclusion of everything else, and honestly it's beneath you.

    I've come to expect better.
     
  3. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    BTW, for all those lamenting the Crabbe trade, what happened to only wanting players who want to be here?

    This is clearly what Crabbe wanted. He waived his trade kicker to allow this trade to happen. He also signed that offer sheet with BRK last summer with the anticipation that if Portland didn't match (and BRK made it VERY painful to match) he wasn't just getting a huge payday, but the opportunity to be a starter.

    Crabbe wanted this. He preferred going to BRK with the chance to start over staying in POR and coming off the bench. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but given the choice he chose BRK over POR.

    BNM
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Rumor? We don't need to stinkin rumor!
     
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    I'll take that bet. All Crabbe has to do is score 30pts one night and 0pts the next and that is an average of 15pts per game.

    Or 20pts one night and 10pts the next, 15pt average.

    I'll bet $50 he could do that once in his career.
     
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    And it's a reasonable choice for him. He will almost certainly start every game and play 30 minutes a night comfortably because he will be their best shooting guard. Also, he might have some fun playing regularly with Russell. That team is bad but they won't be tanking (have no reason too) and he might develop there.
     
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    It would depend on a couple of things.

    Do you want to fuck him?

    Are you good at fucking?
     
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    No kidding. The hate Batum got for signing a big offer sheet...LOL.
     
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    The summer league after we matched AC's contract Dame and CJ sat together at the game and Crabbe was not sitting near them at all...he was with his entourage...they didn't seem to have even eye contact when the camera panned to them so this move was probably a good one long term...
     
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    I think Boob's point is that the Offensive Rating basically rates their impact when they use a possession. Crabbe generally only uses a possession when he's wide open, so he's clearly going to run a great ORtg. It would be a bit like comparing DeAndre Jordan's ORtg to, say, prime Jermaine O'Neal's--Jordan only uses a possession to dunk. O'Neal had to use possessions to create shots out of the post (or via defended jumper). If Jordan ran a higher ORtg (I don't know if he did, I haven't checked since this is just hypothetical) it wouldn't mean a lot.

    I agree the "you're better than this" is overly confrontational, heh. Let's not lose the actual points by turning hostile--that's what the OT forum is for.
     
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    Saw the following on RealGM - not sure how accurate it is:

     
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    I've seen a couple tweets today that said Portland was far better statistically with Harkless on the floor than Crabbe....
     
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    Do you really think we had a lot of shot clock violations from Crabbe passing out of a contested three at the end of the clock? That didn't happen often, at all.
     
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    That's quite a difference.
     
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    I've seen a couple of posts today that show this forum is far better sadisticly with me posting in it.
     
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    Which is why we shouldn't give up Harkless to get the PF version of Crabbe (Ryan Anderson).
     
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    There were many times I was wondering why he did not shoot when he had the ball. I do not have a statistical analysis of this. I do know that this team had tons of possessions when CJ and Dame were trapped that ended with Harkless or Aminu doing something with the ball that ended with a lost possession - how many of these are from Crabbe not being aggressive with the ball I can not tell you.

    This is probably why I like ET more than Crabbe - he shoots low percentage - but when the offense grids to a halt - he will facilitate something for himself or someone else - I would rather have that happen and end with a clank than having Moe or Aminu left with the ball in their hand having to attack the rim off the dribble.
     
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  19. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    That's the thing I don't get. Batum got all kind of hate in this forum when he signed the MIN offer sheet. People really turned on him for signing a lucrative offer with a chance for an expanded role.

    Is it because he's French?

    BNM
     
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    All I saw was apparently I got red text saying I was insulted for saying Hark and AC to Gordon and Ariza would be a downgrade! WTF was a reasonable reaction!

    This is a salty, sensitive summer all around.
     

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