As the earth dies screaming

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    http://hawaiirenewableenergy.org/
    we don't have to be part of the UN bill to be a part of positive change to reach their goals and help make Hawaii less dependent if not independent of importing fossil fuels to produce our electric needs
     
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    I should hope so. You have it, not much reason not to put a harness on it.:tongue:
     
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    I often miss Hilo.....need to visit and catch up with some friends one day...
     
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    Soonest can come!
     
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    I have no idea why Hawaii wasn't geothermal powered all along. It's not new technology.

    It's REALLY expensive to ship oil from the mainland.

    And I don't see why you couldn't do most everything on the islands in electric vehicles. Certain commercial vehicles need more range, but the vast majority of vehicles don't need more range than the EVs provide.
     
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    because of the control the families have had over island commerce just about since the first missionaries. agreed on the EV's, and hydrogen as a potential storage method for the many times production exceeds demand. the prohibitive costs of the infrastructure and HELCO already with the fossil fuel plants/ interisland freight for the profits of another family/storage facilities, tank farms for another, a myriad of reasons but many tied to the fact that certain businesses would loose stranglehold of island life. it really did take the tax incentives/ both federal and state to create an interest in solar, but now , with those expired and the competition of the startups to take advantage, we have a whole lot of different options available, but net metering is off the table in most areas. still a growth industry with substantial waiting lists. newest solar "product" is a fixed rate for the duration of a 20 year contract at a significant cost savings over helco. they sell you the electric produced from panels and batteries they install on your roof all while leaving the home owner connected to the grid for potential HELCO purchases of increased demand. interesting business model as they become a very small scale alternative for a $0 dollars down. they become the homeowners electric utility for all practical purposes. because of the many alternative energy sources and the islands drive to be independent, (Something the military is very interested in us becoming) I foresee Hawaii achieving our goals before 2045.
     
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    Dead zone spotted in the brains of the Trump Deranged.
     
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    and only at the cost of several islands China is claiming of Taiwan's, Viet Nams, Japans and the Phillipines! We leave them to occupy the South China Seas and they'll slap N Korea's hand....and probably still do black market deals with them. We used to protect those South Asian waters from Chinese invasion.....first time ever we've given them the thumbs up for doing what they basically did in Tibet....now they're preparing for war with India....our ally....strange to think of these things as winning for the US
     

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