Politics White Nationalist Rally turns to violence and terrorism

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  1. riverman

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    lots of art is no longer for sale though or on display for certain reasons
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    When polls show a majority of Americans want Obamacare preserved with minor fixes or that a majority of Americans want universal health care, you sneer at the idea of making policy based on popularity and mutter imprecations against the "tyranny of the majority."

    When polls are in favor of your cause to leave up statues commemorating the Confederacy, suddenly it's "undemocratic" not to do what the polls say.
     
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    It's not my cause. I already said I am ambivalent about the statues. I just don't see the idiotic arguments against, and neither do the vast majority of the people.

    This isn't a close poll, or one that was heavily against until a massive media campaign in recent days.
     
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    And that ugly thing you just posted wasn't wiped off the face of the earth or defaced.
     
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    According to polls, the majority of Americans didn't want to enter WWII.
     
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    It is. You've argued as passionately for this as anything you've ever argued for on this board. It's clearly deeply important to you to preserve monuments to slave culture.

    Just own your beliefs, don't try to coyly "just sayin' :dunno: " them away like PapaG used to.
     
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    How do you know this? There's a large collection of these pieces and when they were painted, they were called ART........and due to our evolving sense of political correctness....they are not publicly displayed....I believe Spike Lee or Samuel Jackson have collections of these things....you won't see them hanging in the public parks anytime soon..and I'd bet most have been defaced or destroyed.....they have been photographed though, probably for civil rights references....as have medieval torture devices....
     
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    I just don't think they should be taken down because it's the foolish cause du jour.
     
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    You were able to find and post it. Thus not wiped off the face of the earth.
     
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    Oh, well, if photos count, then removing the statues should be no problem. You'll still have the Google images, so not wiped off the face of the Earth.
     
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    I can show you many paintings of Hitler and Robert E Lee as well as photos of the holocaust....the camera captured many crimes against humanity
     
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    So having them stay wouldn't have the desired effect, either. Your arguments are silly. Seriously silly.
     
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    translation....you have no answer for your sadness at the loss of Confederate icons in public parks...
     
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    The desired effect is not to officially glorify slave culture on public land.

    I'm fine with there being a record that they existed, whether in museums or on the Internet. We don't want to erase history, do we?
     
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    It is history that they erected the statues in those parks and named them.

    So yeah, you do want to erase history. You also want to do it in places you don't even live near or visit.
     
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    Preserve the former locations of the statues and the former names of the parks online too. No worries, buddy. I'd hate to erase any history.
     
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    fair enough.....they didn't bother me either but they bother people that are connected closely to that chapter in history as did colored only restrooms in the south....I'm sure lot's of whites weren't bothered by segregated public facilities either. Respect the dignity of those whose ancestors suffered in the region would be a good place to start.
     
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    Denny's fired up because today because he found out Costco doesn't sell Lee jeans.
     
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    I have no sadness at the loss of Confederate icons in public parks. Like I just wrote, it's a complex issue. The right answer is probably that some should be removed and some should remain. On a case by case basis.
     
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    See how that works?
     

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