ESPN can die

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Binx, Mar 16, 2018.

  1. Orion Bailey

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    @dviss1

    This is why sooo mny peole hate on lbj.

    This is sooo douche.

    Its already viral but he needs to pound his own chest.
    Reaks of insecurities and he does this regularly.
    He had to post his own 30k scoring mark even though the media had it more tham covered.

    Ive never ever seen a person who is the best in the world at what he does, have such an insecure head on his shoulders. Its pretty crazy. And lame.
    He should just play the game and his stats will speak for themselves. He doesnt need to brag.
    Its just douchey coming from the best in the world.

    Lbj the player? Mad respect. Lbj the human...pppfffft. Weeak
     
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  2. jonnyboy

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    You're good man, your English is much better than my German.
     
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    I'm not a LeBron hater but why shouldn't he get hated on for what he did the same way TT does? Is it simply that LeBron didn't play for the Blazers? Does him going back to Cleveland 4 years later and winning a title erase any bad he did?
     
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    While many fans on the West Coast have family rooting ties to East Coast teams, the same isn't true in reverse. The way the country was settled, the NW is the most remote markets in the country. ESPN is operating on a Macro level trying to appeal to the masses & relative to other markets, nobody is a Blazer fan. This isn't going to change in our lifetimes. As others have said, if you're looking for Blazer love, just go elsewhere as ESPN is looking for ratings... it's just business.

    About the only thing that I could see transcending this dynamic is if Portland were to have some global marketing phenomena on their team. Someone who not only was among the very best players but who attracted a whole different audience. Dame is trying to diversify his appeal with music. If he were regularly topping the charts we'd be onto something. A dominant player who was also male model good looking might attract a big female audience. A dominant player who was Dave Chappelle funny off the court or somehow magnetic on camera could do it too. A truly dominant foreign player who could bring in a huge overseas market would capture ESPN's focus. Sorry to say but national commentators look at this 11 game win streak as a disappointment for the league as it's happening where no one cares and it's too bad it's not happening somewhere where it might be appreciated.

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  5. e_blazer

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    Good point, except that you left out the fact that people love the David vs Goliath story line. Up til now, the story on the Blazers run has been, “Cute team, and Lillard can be a hot chucker, but they’re just winning because everyone else is beat up.” Tuesday night is a great chance to change that narrative. Keep the streak alive and then beat Harden, CP3 and Co. and eyes could be opened up to the fact that Lillard, CJ, and the no names are an exciting team to root for. Hell, it might even happen for certain posters around here.
     
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    if Portland were to advance through the big Western conference markets in the playoffs to the finals, expect to hear plenty about terrible national ratings. Historically, PDX has been national ratings death which is why they consistently get jobbed in the playoffs by the leagues goons. The masses aren't die hard basketball fans, they care when their casual rooting interest (the local team) is winning... expect Harden to flop out the entire team.





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    I couldn’t care less about ratings. I know all about the media’s lack of interest in anything Portland. “And the Blazers win the 1977 NBA championship. Now, off to the Kemper Open.”
     
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    Screenshot of what I am seeing @SlyPokerDog and @Denny Crane

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    I am on most up-to-date version of Chrome browser on Windows 10 PC.
     
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    Hahahahahahaha @ "you picking Virginia"!!!!! Genius!
     
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    Ummm, do you NOT remember how nearly EVERY basketball fan (outside of Miami) thought he was the most vile human being when he left CLE? The hate that Durant got was extremely mild in comparison, despite being a much worse offense.
     
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    Can you try making your browser less wide? I bet that fixes it. That is, shrink the browser window.
     
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    Yeah. That 2nd one you mention... I've watched people just trip on their own accord when guarding, but if it's correlated to a move from the offensive player... then it's created this schema that the offensive player was the one who caused it, creating the reaction from the crowd (based on prior associations of like events). It's totally socially embedded, and it sucks.
     
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    Respectfully disagree. All that matters is winning. Nobody outside Oakland was a GSW fan, but now every market has GSW fans.

    The way I see it is through the merchandise lens - New Era for example. When you're at the top of the league, your team gets many more varieties of hats made, and with street wear having close ties to sports, the cross-over customers are all about some fresh new lids. And since they don't want to appear to be poseurs they become a "fan" of the team with the new fresh hats they want to rock.

    We currently have 1 page worth of hats (12) on New Era's website, and nothing outside the standard red/black/white colorway:
    https://www.neweracap.com/All-Headw...NBA:team:PORTLAND TRAILBLAZER&text=#toListing

    GSW has 4 pages worth of hats (39), with many colorways outside of blue/yellow:
    https://www.neweracap.com/All-Headw...:GOLDEN STATE WARRIOR&page=0&scroll=toListing

    Winning leads to merch, leads to street wear, leads to bandwagon. Market size doesn't matter.
     
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    It kind of does. There is a sweet spot you have to hit. Not too wide but also if you go too far square it shows the issue again. That isn't really a fix though. I would rather have my widescreen monitor and resolution as is and deal with the issue then trading in my monitor, changing my resolution or making my window smaller than I like. I not saying this is your issue specifically. It is more something they should fix on the software-end. I have had this resolution and monitor for a long time. This issue just popped up within the last month so something changed in the back-end.
     
  15. BonesJones

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    Could they not be hated on for simply being outspoken? Was Skip Bayless not hated on?
     
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    Nobody was blocking LeBron there. His he's was at the rim. Do you expect him to be a strong low post player and have a 40 inch vertical? C'mon dude..
     
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    His body language and effort on the court is awful too.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Claiming market size doesn't matter and using the Warriors as an example doesn't make sense. The Bay Area has double the population of the State of Oregon and is one of the biggest media markets going. It's not only a big fanbase but a very wealthy one too.

    While certainly winning helps push consumer appeal and sales for every franchise big market or small, New Era makes a lot more money on bandwagon fan hat sales if a wealthy big market is winning then if a remote small market is.

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    Fair enough, although GSW was largely confined to Oakland until they started winning. Winning opened them up to SF bandwagon fans. But you can use CLE as another example, since they don't have a neighboring city the size of SF.
    The point was nobody was a GSW fan until they won - now seemingly everybody is.
    Nobody was a CLE fan until LBJ came along.
    Yes, the largEST markets (NY, LA, CHI) will always have more merch than smaller markets. But WINNING smaller markets will have more merch than losing larger markets (excl NY, LA, CHI). DAL is much larger than POR, but we actually have more (2) hats in our collection because DAL has been shit for the past couple years.
    Merch is an indicator of winning, but it's also a driver of the "fan" base.
     

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