And I am saying if conservatives were doing the same thing, I would be calling them out. I don't know if you know this but the ones that are calling somebody like me racist and are attacking everybody is the left. The right stays quiet. That doesn't mean I am bias towards one side just for pointing things out about another. Yet you want me to sit and prove to you I am not one side. No man you are doing the same thing as these others. Saying I am a conservative. I don't fuck with any of the political parties. Your only support for that theory is because I trash the left? well yeah when the left is coming at me I come at them. Same with the right but nobody from the right has come out and made ridiculous assumptions. Yeah though you caught me, I am a closet conservative. Crazy. This thread is nonsense
The fact that you place such relevance on the traits of "this side" and "that side" places relavence on the party system. Talking about the differences of those parties with claims that you always attack one side because "they're louder" is dividing. Its not even about which side you're calling out. Its not even about bias. Its simply that you hate the party system and the division it creates but you add prevalence to it.
Because both sides have different traits. If they didn't what would be the separation of the two parties. Do you want me to get a tattoo to prove to you? what do I need to do to convince you? but really though, you are trying hard bones and that's cool and all but you are at a dead end here
I’m feeling like 70% of what ye is saying. Dude is questioning perceived reality vs experienced reality, and that shit makes gives me such incredible boners. 30% of it is confused nonsense tho. He’s not very eloquent, ironically.
I''m definitely not at a dead end, and I'm trying help you see the way it comes across, even if you think it shouldnt.s If you hate the party system and don't want political division, then why do you constantly focus on the difference in traits and complain about one side because you dont like a specific trait (i.e. they're loud)? Do you not see how that contradicts what you state you want?
No it doesn't. Bones, most of the racist accusations and whatever else it might be the new outrage comes from the left. If the right were doing this on this forum I would call that out too. I follow a lot of people on twitter. NBA people, MMA people, a wide range. A lot think left. I also follow conservative types. When I see conservatives all of a sudden like Kanye because he said he likes a certain aspect of trump, I cringe because I know these are the same idiots calling Kanye an asshole for the longest time. When I see certain gun control ideas debated and the right likes to bring up the constitution, it's more cringe. The right has some stupid ass ideas. So does the left. But they both have things I like too. We live in Oregon. Major blue state. The left is way more loud here, a lot of SJW nonsense and what not. There are a lot of Trump hating posts on here. Not a lot of democrat hating posts. This forum is geared towards the left and generally the people I have issues with are from the left so I call out that specific trait of the left I hate. If it was somebody on the right arguing a position from the right I dislike, it would be the same thing but that hasn't really happened. The closest I can think of is my last encounter with Mar and it was lame. He gave me shit for saying negative things about my Grandpa, my Grandpa being an old marine vet. He was an alcoholic, abused my dad, etc. Been a shitty grandparent to me. Mar proceeded to basically tell me I should call him up and apologize for being an asshole. Well, unfortunately this is the stubborn old conservative veteran way of thinking. Vets can do no wrong to conservatives. So I went back and forth with him. So I hold no bias, it's just that more democrats appear on this forum and tend to lash at me and call me shit
you missed the Obama or Hillary bashing for years before Trump? Fact is there's always bashing of presidents....always...and the sooner the conversation stops being left or right the sooner people will stop talking like politics are rivals who hate each other....the elected officials are supposed to work for us.....fact...they have worked for their own parties power bases for many decades....situation, problem, process, solution....we've been mired in the problem for way too long. Rather than complain about the status quo in DC it's more productive to engage in the process of change...Trump campaigned by insult....governs by insult and when a leader does this....he's not going to make a lot of friends. He brought this on himself. My process is to stop voting for Democrats or Republicans period...at some point, we need to change the dynamic.