Well, I'm sure Bassy and Doc probably had an outburst or something, which probably called for Doc taking his backup duties away from him, but if Bassy produced a little more this season, the organization wouldn't be making a big deal about this AT ALL. They wouldn't be happy with him, but they wouldn't cut him had he produced more. This is why Tony Allen still got his option picked up, because he was way more valuable to the team. I think this move was more a basketball decision than a conduct decision, to be honest with you. This was the Celtics' "big chance" to get rid of their underachieving point guard that has no place on the team anymore, with the way Rondo has come along. With that said, I still have faith that he'll turn out to be at least a decent player off the bench. He's only 21 or 22, he'll find a home and I hope he is able to be "let loose" in his minutes off the bench somewhere. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DRob-50-Forever @ Apr 25 2007, 10:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think Steve Blake would be a nice fit.</div> No, we need more than Steve Blake. This team needs a veteran point guard who will display some leadership, better shooting than Rondo, and one that will help mentor Rondo. This is why Gary Payton was perfect here in 04-05, and this is why I would really like a guy like Brevin Knight on this team next season. If we can get better, great.
lol cb32 when I proposed picking up Brevin Knight you rejected it and said he was "getting old"guess you've switched gears hahano but I think you're completely rightKnight isn't in his prime anymore but he si still very solid and can teach Rondo the ropes and help make Rondo at least an average shooter and make people respect his shot
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ Apr 25 2007, 12:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>lol cb32 when I proposed picking up Brevin Knight you rejected it and said he was "too old" guess you've switched gears</div> Yeah I have. At that time, I wanted a real veteran point guard to come in and take over, but I have switched gears because of the way Rondo has come on so quickly. All we really need now is another veteran who we can trust and who will help teach Rondo a thing or two, we don't necessarily NEED the top 15 point guard like I wanted back when I said that. All we need is a trustworthy veteran to stick around for a couple years. By that time, Rondo will be somewhat established and a legit option as a serious starter in this league.
one good thing about this is that the Celtics will pretty much have to look into getting a veteran point guard
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ Apr 25 2007, 04:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Of course the Celtics would do something stupid like this. What are they doing making sure they suck next season also to tank? </div>Are you serious?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE @ Apr 25 2007, 01:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>one good thing about this is that the Celtics will pretty much have to look into getting a veteran point guard</div> Exactly, and I'm very happy about that. Man, this is gonna be the most interesting Celtics offseason in a loooong time, and I can't wait. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Are you serious?</div> I don't think he was. I think the triggered that it was a joke.
Telfair didn't play well enough to justify the publicity problems and for the Celtics to deal w/ his "I'm the best" attitude issues.Boston was wise to severe ties and send a message to the rest of the league that poor personal choices and run-ins w/ the law will have real consequences.We should be praising the Celtics... not bashing them!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yankshater213 @ Apr 25 2007, 06:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>WOW Serge you really hit the nail on the head this time. Thats EXACTLY what they're doing. Explain how its a stupid move, because it really isn't.</div>Telfair still has potential just cause he had a bad season don't mean they should let him go. And I know it's also cause he causes problems or w/e, but if he was good they would no care at all.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mikeballa2001 @ Apr 24 2007, 06:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hayes said the gun was registered to Telfair's girlfriend, who he said was Telfair's common law wife, and that Telfair was borrowing the SUV she normally uses.</div>Oh. my. god.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ Apr 26 2007, 01:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Telfair still has potential just cause he had a bad season don't mean they should let him go. And I know it's also cause he causes problems or w/e, but if he was good they would no care at all.</div>Yeah, he has plenty of potential to be in jail, too.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Justice @ Apr 26 2007, 10:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, he has plenty of potential to be in jail, too.</div> He won't go to jail, he's a professional athlete. They don't go to jail unless somebody has evidence of them literally killing somebody. And even then, O.J. made it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Apr 26 2007, 09:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'> He won't go to jail, he's a professional athlete. They don't go to jail unless somebody has evidence of them literally killing somebody. And even then, O.J. made it.</div> Athletes don't get out of jail time because their athletes, judges have no reason to let athletes off the hook.
http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/ce...never_belonged/ <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>"I still think he's going to be a productive NBA player," maintains Danny Ainge, who brought him here, "but it didn't work out for us."</div> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>"He was clearly our best point guard coming out of training camp," Ainge declares. "At the time, we were running an offense called 'Random,' which is more of an uptempo style that fits his game. We stopped doing that, and I'm not saying we shouldn't have, due to our personnel. But it wasn't good for Sebastian."</div> All Bassy needs is to be put in an up-tempo system. If he can get into an up-tempo situation like that, he will do well. This is why he did well in October/November, because they ran an up-tempo offense. Then the stopped, the team stopped running, and Bassy didn't do as well in a halfcourt set. That was expected, and that's the main reason why Portland traded him (they are a halfcourt team that runs through Randolph - eh hem, black hole!).
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Apr 26 2007, 11:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Athletes don't get out of jail time because their athletes, judges have no reason to let athletes off the hook.</div> Give me a break, it happens. It's the way it works. If Hillbilly Bob did what Tony Allen did, he'd most likely suffer some consequences, but just because TA is a millionaire professional athlete, he got nothing. It's just the way it works. <span style="color:#FF0000">EDIT: Topics merged.</span>
If it makes you feel happy, Toronto Drafted Rafael Araujo. In a draft with people like Josh Smith, Iguoldala, Al Jefferson, Delonte West and Kevin Martin. But if it wasn't for us Drafting Hoffa, we wouldn't have been able to draft Bargnani. Maybe Bassy is a blessing to you people, as if you win the lottery, you get Oden or Durrant (Preferrably Oden).
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Garbajosa.n.cheese @ Apr 29 2007, 01:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If it makes you feel happy, Toronto Drafted Rafael Araujo. In a draft with people like Josh Smith, Iguoldala, Al Jefferson, Delonte West and Kevin Martin. But if it wasn't for us Drafting Hoffa, we wouldn't have been able to draft Bargnani. Maybe Bassy is a blessing to you people, as if you win the lottery, you get Oden or Durrant (Preferrably Oden).</div> Bassy wouldn't be the reason why though. Even if he panned out and remained our starting point guard all year, it still wouldn't have made a difference.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Apr 29 2007, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Bassy wouldn't be the reason why though. Even if he panned out and remained our starting point guard all year, it still wouldn't have made a difference.</div>So if he was actually good, would the Celtics have gone somewhere?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Garbajosa.n.cheese @ May 2 2007, 08:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So if he was actually good, would the Celtics have gone somewhere?</div> No... I just said that in my last post.
Telfair's nameplate in Waltham might be gone, but he is not forgotten, and he is still a member of the Celtics despite managing partner Wyc Grousbeck's statement that he didn't anticipate Telfair returning to his locker.Ainge said he remains in contact with the 21-year-old point guard, who is working out in Las Vegas with other NBA players."He is still with us, even if he doesn't have his nameplate back up on his locker yet," Ainge said before adding, "I am actively trying to move Sebastian in trades."While Ainge said he thought the relationship between Telfair and the team could be salvaged, he thought Telfair would likely be better served in another uniform."I believe time heals all that stuff," he said. "As serious a violation as this is, and understanding the frustration of ownership in this scenario, I think Sebastian is a good enough kid that I don't think this could prevent him from being a Celtic again."At the same time, I think Sebastian would like a change of scenery. Right now, he is behind Rajon Rondo and Delonte West on the court, so it is not an ideal situation for him. It is also not ideal for us to have him here worrying about how the public will perceive him and treat him. It is probably better to have him go play someplace else. But I wouldn't close the door on Sebastian being here again because I actually like the kid."While this may sound like a familiar refrain to some from past transgressions, Ainge said Telfair has expressed great remorse for the incident last month when a loaded gun was found in his car after he was stopped for speeding. He was also cited for driving with a suspended license."I have talked with Sebastian a couple of times since then," he said referring to the nameplate removal. "Sebastian is very apologetic. He knows we have strict codes. He knows Wyc (Grousbeck) defended him in public in the past. He knows the warning we have given them about these exact circumstances. He realizes he is wrong with what he did."He probably doesn't like how we did things publicly," Ainge concluded, "but at the same time, in my conversations with Sebastian, and Wyc's conversations with Sebastian, (he is) all apologetic. He puts the blame on himself."http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/sports/x1964929643
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>"At the same time, I think Sebastian would like a change of scenery. Right now, he is behind Rajon Rondo and Delonte West on the court, so it is not an ideal situation for him. It is also not ideal for us to have him here worrying about how the public will perceive him and treat him. It is probably better to have him go play someplace else. But I wouldn't close the door on Sebastian being here again because I actually like the kid."</div>Ainge has a man crush on this kid. Boston isn't an ideal situation for him? This was supposed to give him a fresh start and a chance to prove himself. He did nothing of the sort and if any way possible has actually retracted from his 3rd string Portland days. I am a huge Telfair critic and I don't really percieve him like some ill-informed Celtic fans thinking htis kid is a gun toating thug but do you really blame the public for thinking this way? All they know him as is a guy who got benched then kicked off the team. I wouldn't close the door on this kid but I also wouldn't be opening the door wide open. His chances left are few and far between.
