Politics Trump: Treasonous Traitor and....Impeachment?

Russians live in Oregon too...the former Soviet Union is filled with countries that formerly were "Russians" …..no picture to paint...invasion of a sovereign nation is invasion...nothing to do with the ethnic population of the country...China doesn't get to invade Taiwan because they have common bloodlines

 

...Uhh, no, you didn't...unless your tap dancing is intentional go back and read again.

...I asked you..."what's your "view of the right thing". Yes or no, do you honestly think Trump handled himself properly with the best interests of the U.S. during the summit?"

You replied, and I quote, "Ha! I suppose you have your reasons to be in a rush to judge. I do not. I do not mind waiting to see how events play out."




...remember now?...and why would I be "worked up"... you haven't really been much of a debater during this convo but if it helps you to feel otherwise, I'm happy for you...no, really.

 

As far as I know, the people of Taiwan did not vote to rejoin China either.

 

this has nothing to do with my comparison...and actually the KMT (Kuomingtang) has a lot of members that are pro China....doesn't change that a sovereign nation has the right to be such without invasion or threat of invasion....your point is lacking concerning this...Crimea did not vote to reunite with Russia either..they were forced by military threat...you seem to weigh on the side of Russian expansion.....Syria is their puppet now too which gave them the naval port they've been craving forever...I'm guessing you think Poland, Latvia, etc...should just bow down to the military threat of Russia as well

 

...aww c'mon man...now you're just splitting hairs...and summoning the grammar police?

 

You have Crimean Russians in your own town that will tell you they did vote to return.

 

with a gun to the head.....Ukranians are dealing with the same thing....Russian is the most popular second language in Oregon...only state in the US that can make that claim. I've learned to never judge a country by it's expats and their political leanings....otherwise why would they want to leave home? Look at Ireland's history......sure there are British loyalists...you think most Irish want to reunite with England?

 

Putin, like Kim jong un kills his competition...vote for Putin or die....support Kim or die....strong arm politics

 

Naw, just Hong Kong...and yes, I do understand the 100 year lease situation, but you must also be aware that the US recognized them as a separate entity.

 

I am no expert on the area, no claim at all. But from what I hear is there is really bad blood between the Crimean
Russians and the Ukrainians stemming for WWII when many of the Ukrainians sided with the Nazis against the Russians in the area.

Now, like I say, I don't know. But I do not think it is the US's job to sort this shit out. You may want to see Putin
bitch slapped, over this or affronts to Obama, but I do not.
Crimea is now part of Russia as it has long been but for a few years, the last 20.

I see nothing to fix here.

 

The conflict originated in March 2014 when unmarked Russian soldiers seized the Crimean peninsula in Ukraine, an invasion that followed Ukraine’s ousting of a pro-Moscow leader. Despite denials from Russian President Vladimir Putin at the time that the troops belonged to Russia, he later admitted that he deployed them…..your numbers don't add up...they invaded in March of 2014 that's not 20 years

 

The Democrats are a "big tent" party. There's always gonna be some petty bickering.

 

You'll never get that yes or no.

 

I took one look at this guy on the Letterman Late Night show 10 years ago and could see he was a pile of shit.

 

I don't think our past Presidents have belonged in a cesspool. It used to be that we looked up to our President not down.

 

hong kong has nothing to do with the China Taiwan standoff....Hong Kong was a territory under lease....Taiwan has it's own independent govt..money..army..etc….I've been to Hong Kong over a dozen times...used to be Cantonese businessmen...last time I went it was filled with mainland Chinese...Taiwan lost it's UN status under Jimmy Carter's watch and has a few diplomatic embassies in the world today..and a pro independence president...the 3rd one in their history...Taiwan is a pure democracy.with a huge industrial base..Hong Kong was a shopping mall. Wealthy Cantonese from HK fled the island in droves when the communists showed up...the Cantonese are money making capitalists to the core

 

Yeah, they do cast a wide net. They do vote more in lock step than the GOP.

As compared to who? Shall we take a look at some of the personalities in the DNC? I have mixed feelings about the guy, what does appeal is that he is not in favor with the left or the right. Lets face it, the political machine is broken, it has been for damn near two hundred years. The lobbies have made their interests priority over the will of the people.

Then they need to move the White House out of Washington.

Yeah, we are of an age that we in fact were taught to respect the office. A very innocent time. I can only think of two past Presidents that I hold in such esteem, and that could stand up to today's media scrutiny. Ike and Ronnie. Back in the day, the media protected the office, you had to go back to Lincoln, Taft, Harding hmmm Grant, to see the press savage the sitting Pres, and they had no where near the ability to be effective.

For kicks, think about how the press would handle Teddy, or FDR. Hell, throw in JFK or Johnson today. It would be a blood bath.

 

Yeah..well stated. In truth, they are both situations that are shameful. China is as bad or worse than Russia, hell, to create man made islands in international waters, or in disputed seaways, is another abuse that should not be.

 

It was much worse long ago....pre internet they could really pull the wool over the public's eyes