Politics Kavanaugh Confirmation Hearing, now with New allegations!

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Will Kavanaugh be confirmed?

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  1. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    True
     
  2. Propagandist

    Propagandist Well-Known Member

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    It actually pains me to read things like this. This is why women don't come forward. Nearly all of the women in my life have at some point been assaulted and revealed it years and years after the fact. It is almost incomprehensible but it is true. And not one of them was drunk and pushing herself or whatever the fuck. I don't like that language. And I'm sure that form of forward drunkenness happen; hell, I've seen people act that way, but never have they come forward and pretended that it was something that it wasn't.

    And also, and very importantly, having sex with or trying to have sex with or whatever with an intoxicated woman is also not okay, regardless of what she is saying; and this is not just me saying this but the authorities. The flipside would be excusing drunk men for their drunken behavior (ahem). It's bullshit.
     
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  3. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    You make a big assumption here. You would like to believe she was drunk and pushing herself on him. Even if it were the case, and they got in that room, and she suddenly changed her mind, and he tried to make her follow through because he was thinking with his other head, he was in the wrong. No means no.

    You don't want to believe its Kavanaugh. Maybe because you want to see him confirmed. Maybe its the current climate in which women are speaking up and going after men for the sins they commited years ago. That they thought were long buried. I don't know, I am not going to assume. Just pointing out possibilities.

    The things that stand out to me.

    - Another dude was in the room to guard the door.

    - Despite death threats, and danger to herself and her family, she is not backing down. Pretty brave in my book.

    I don't see her coming out of the woodwork, to make a false claim, causing such a stress on herself and family and all to smear a dude who is innocent. I just don't see it. Is it possible, sure. I just don't see it.
     
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    CC, I don't know what the truth is at his point and neither does anyone else. And to be honest I don't have a thing for Kav at all, if he guilty he should be gone.
    How much evidence is needed to go after someone with serious accusations? If its just one person's word over another's thats crazy.
    Should there need to be some evidence/witness before someone is deemed guilty?
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    That would be why you'd have an FBI investigation and why you'd have testimony from people other than Ford and Kav.

    So you got to ask yourself: why are the Republicans refusing to do that?

    barfo
     
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    How's the weather on your planet? :dunno:
     
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    I personally have no problem with an investigation, I'm actually for it. Let the chips fall where they do.
    On the other hand I think its really slippery for Finstein to not bring it up after having the report for two months. Seems if she was so interested and in an investigation for the accuser she would have brought it up then, rather than wait for the hearings to be over? That does appears to be a stall tactic to me.
     
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    They already have testimony from all parties except the accuser, who has repeatedly backed out of agreements to testify.

    All 4 people she claims were there have provided statements under oath
    that they have no idea what she's talking about.

    Only the accuser has refused to do anything.

    Like make an accusation of a crime to the FBI or any other law enforcement agency anywhere at any time.

    Like testify under oath what she claims and provide something/anything to support her claim.
     
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    But the question is, why are the Republicans against it?

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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Maybe check the news? She's scheduled to testify at 10am ET Thursday.

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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    actually they have NO testimony under oath. What one might say in an interview can be completely different than what someone says under oath. The first has no repercussions but if you lie under oath it's called perjury. Do some homework.
     
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    Earth has a variety of weather going on but it's very nice in Portland. What's the weather like on Pluto?
     
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    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    The Republicans had planned to have Kavanaugh confirmed in time for the start of the new Supreme Court term on October 1st. Feinstein and Company could have brought the allegations forward for investigation at the end of July when she was first informed of Ford’s claims. Instead, she sat on it until the point it would do the maximum to disrupt that schedule and make it so that, if Kavanaugh has to be replaced with a new nominee, it will drag out past the midterm elections. So, you know, it’s just swamp rats of both political persuasions doing their thing and putting party over any real interests in truth.
     
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    well said!
     
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    But republicans said a Supreme Court Justice can't be confirmed within 8 months of an election. Those were their rules. Just ask McConnell as he established the rule. Why do they want to change that now? A little taste of their own medicine. :biglaugh::biglaugh:
     
  18. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I can't quite believe that Republicans care about leaving the court with a vacancy, since they left it open for a year rather than considering Garland. So that dog won't hunt.

    barfo
     
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    Did I say that Republican rats were any more honorable than Democrat rats?
     
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    No, you did not. But this isn't a case of 'both sides do it'. Refusing to consider a nominee at all is of a different order of magnitude than delaying a nominee's confirmation by a couple of weeks so that a sexual abuse allegation can be heard.

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