Time for a Major Shakeup

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  1. Scalma

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    God if only we would’ve given Vonleh a real chance. He could be starting at PF.
     
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    Jason Quick on primetime saying that CJ's contract might be viewed as a bad contract based on his performance. Never really thought of CJ as a non tradeable asset. Is he wrong? I'm not so sure....
     
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    I have no problem believing Neil waited to long to trade him, sounds pretty par for the course actually.
     
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    I don't buy that. CJ has the track record of a good player. And every NBA player with that kind of contract is overpaid to some extent. Put him on the right team and see what happens. It wouldn't surprise me if somebody lowballed the Blazers though.
     
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    This is exactly why I have been so vocal about trading CJ... there is already enough evidence to show the McLillard tandem isn’t a contender... I wanted to trade him at his peak value... I don’t think he is a negative asset but the longer Neil waits the worse the return will be
     
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    One obvious issue with replacing Stotts or Olshey - who would take the job?

    Any hire would be wearing the label "interim" until the team is sold - with no clue when that will be. Why would a top candidate take the job under those conditions?
     
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    No, he started 109 games here.

    To succeed in the Stotts system, a big man must be "modern." In the NBA, the majority of big men is not, and never will be, "modern." So Vonleh and Davis will do fine under any other coach.
     
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    Vonleh never got an opportunity to be anything other than a lamp post in Portland, despite all the “starts.” In New York he has the freedom to shoot and is averaging over 40% from outside. Defensively he’s perfect for the modern game. He got fucked over the minute Neil drafted Swanigan. To then see Olshey double down on his mistake and guarantee Biggies contract next year is just hilarious and shows you what kind of ego maniac we’re dealing with.
     
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    I couldn't have said it any better. Very good post
     
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    I'm already scared what contract Neil will give to Swanigan in 2021
     
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    This is so silly... Dribble handoffs are a major part NBA offenses.

    Executing multiple dribble handoffs isn't 3 card Monte.
     
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    I think you missed my point. Executing multiple dribble handoffs for seven seconds, then giving it back to Dame in a double team usually doesn't end well. I have seen a lot of plays where the other team just keeps shadowing Dame because they know the ball will get back into his hands.
     
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    Link please?
     
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    He’s no different and will treated like any other rookie.
     
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    You mean, with utmost respect, and a generally welcoming demeanor. Of course, I'd expect nothing less.
     
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    I have ZERO strikes and 3 weeks to use ‘em!!!!!! Unless they roll over.
     
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    It was an interview on the radio
     
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    I hardly need to post to this thread. This is great. This thread is saying what I have said for years, then been scared off each time by fanboys. I enjoy reading this thread and letting you guys do the work instead of me writing it and getting silenced.

    But it's temporary. Lillard will get motivated, play 10 high-stat games, the one-man team will finish above .500, and everyone will post all summer about how the season was so great, when actually it was just a great month or two bailing out the awful months.

    Stotts and Olshey are both below-average at their jobs. But with the loss of the Paul Allen spending advantage, Olshey's draft-don't-trade nontalent will fit the new cheapskate owner's budget. Olshey may be here forever.
     
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