Exclusive 2019 Trade Deadline Thread

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  1. ripcityboy

    ripcityboy Well-Known Member

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    The Blazers are now trend setters. It feels so good at the cutting edge of small time trades.
     
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    Hell yes, despite his struggles this year I think he's worth a 1st round pick in the 20's and he still has a year left on his rookie deal.

    The only issues I see are the additional tax and not getting rid of any of any bad contracts. It would make this summer a little trickier but adding Saric is worth it.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    For those still interested in Gordon Hayward:

     
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    I'd try to go at the Pacers for Thad Young who is solid and also on an expiring deal. Mo + Swanigan + 1st for him works. He's a legit 4 with playoff experience and toughness.
     
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    Come on Blazers...

     
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    that's true, although only one GM has offered Hibbert-Kanter-Hawes-Monroe-Parsons-Crabbe-Turner-Meyers 450 million dollars
     
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    1. Nets
    2. Miami
    3. Clippers?
    4. Chicago? Shit organization but he’s from there.
    5. Spurs
    6. Warriors
    7. OKC

    Lolll Take your pick but I bet Portland isn’t on it
     
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    The last plsyers we drafted in the 20s in the last 10 years:
    2009 #21 Victor Claver,
    2010 #22 Elliot Williams,
    2011 #21 Nolan Smith,
    2015 #23 Hollis Jefferson,
    2017 #26 Caleb Swanigan,
    2018 #24 Anfernee Simons.

    Yes i would do it!.
     
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    I think AD said that he doesn't want to play for the Bulls.
     
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    Good lord that's a depressing list.
     
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    What does arbitrage mean?? I need translation please
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Fun exercise for me always to go back in the history of drafts, but here are guys we could have gotten instead in the first round. Not looking at 2nd round.

    2009: Casspi (23), Taj Gibson (26), Demarre Carroll (27)
    2010 meh
    2011 Faried (22), Mirotic (23), Jimmy Butler (30)
    2015 Tyus Jones (24), Larry Nance (27), Looney (30)

    2016 Denver drafted Malik Beasley who has been amazing this year with our pick that we traded for them. Caris Levert went 20, and Pascal Siakam was 27

    2017 Kuzma (27), Derrick White (29), Josh Hart (30)
    2018 Shamet (26)

    There's legit starting quality/borderline stars to be found in the 20s every year. Just because we haven't found em of late doesn't mean we should just dismiss that pick's value. Given our current cap situation, we need to be somewhat judicious with putting that pick in play.
     
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    Yes. Windhorst says it's one of the worst kept secrets in the league. Funny. So many ballers love repping Chi-town But I guess it wouldn't be great hear locals talk shit about you in one of the cheapest organizations in sports.
     
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    I’ve mentioned this before but CJs numbers without Dame (27 ppg on 46% shooting, 5 boards, 5 assists) would intrigue me if I were a team about to lose my franchise player and in need of a new lead guy. Those Lakers pieces are all role players.
     
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    I have absolute confidence if we drafted any of those dudes listed in 2016 & 2017, they would have been glued to the bench and only gotten spot minutes. The talent is there, but Stotts doesn't develop his raw talent early on. If we traded for AD, I think they would have the margin for error that you need to give young players. I know Collins has gotten minutes, but he was a high draft pick from Olshay.
     
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    The Bucks are on ADs list?? That gives Portland hope.
     
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    Just a short drive from Chicago without having to deal with all the hanger on's if he was actually playing there.
     
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    7 drafts x 10 picks in the 20's (#21-#30) = 70 players.

    You listed 16 players, so that is a 23% success rate. Considering this was the initial question and premise….
    I would say I'd take Saric over 60% of your list.

    Subjectively speaking, if you keep the pick, you'd have a 10% chance of getting someone better than Saric, 15% chance of having someone comparable, and a 75% chance of having someone worse.

    Yes be selective using the pick as leverage, but don't over-value it...
     
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    Saric, yes.
    Any other starter on a multi year deal, absolutely.

    A 20 game rental of an oft-injured Mirotic? I'd think twice.
     
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    Sounds to me like a fancy way of talking about a three-team-trade.

    "Arbitrage" means both buying and selling the same asset in different markets to take advantage of differences in purchase prices.

    In this case, it could be a situation where Davis wants to be in LA, but New Orleans doesn't want what LA is offering, perhaps a third team has something New Orleans wants (established star?), and would prefer the prospect/pick package LA would offer. That third team could "buy" AD from New Orleans, and then "sell" him to the Lakers.
     
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